On Fri, Oct 10, 2008 at 4:24 PM, Marcus G. Daniels <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote:

> Phil Henshaw wrote:
>
>> We could consider the vast variation in
>> canine breeds and the fact that breeding selection as an extreme form of
>> epigenetics has not apparently altered the species they all belong to.
>>
>>
> Selection from breeding would mostly be constrained genetics, i.e. a big
> and a small dog could be discriminated by, say, an insulin allele, say (
> http://www.sciencemag.org/cgi/content/abstract/316/5821/112).
> However in epigenetic case we are talking about an inherited but
> non-genetic change.
>
>> Perhaps the question is how environmental pressures and experience may
>> clearly influence genetics, but be insufficient to originate the kind of
>> somehow deeper genetic change that creates new forms of life.   Among
>> other
>> things it points to a distinct difference between 'shallower' and 'deeper'
>> genetic change indicating that some form of structure other than noisy
>> aggregations may be present.
>>
>>
> Seems to me that everything from epigenetic gene regulation changes to
> horizontal gene transfer is happening at the bacterial level..  What is the
> question?
>


You know, not to sound too harshly judgmental, or anything, Marcus...

But:  you do seem to be in direct violation of rule #2 of the FRIAM posting
guidelines which, like rule #1 reads

"*Second **rule of FRIAM: no one talks about specifics*."


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