On Sun, 17 Feb 2008 22:33:00 -0500, "phil henshaw" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
said:
> David,
> Oh, sure, from an investment point of view there are enormous
> opportunities for 'leapfrogging'.  It is actually evident in the vast
> phenomenon of globalization.  A lot of the global integration of trade
> and markets is just that.  I expect there's probably also a good supply
> of 'glowing examples' of successful integration with societies whose
> indigenous knowledge and social structures are still able to thrive with
> it.

The 12volt example was not intended to make any argument for investment.
 It was intended to show an alternative way of thinking about foreign
aid - one that used a bit of imagination to "leapfrog" a technology that
was being imposed - at great cost in terms of money, cultural identity,
etc. etc. - simply because aid folk were thinking about our own
industrialization history - "of course they need hydropower, nuclear
generators, and power distribution grids, look what those things did for
us."  (Aside:  of course development is not really about helping "them;"
it is all about helping our corporations get rid of obsolete tech.)

   
> 
> The question is about the indigenous societies for which leapfrogging is
> just an alien culture invading and disrupting their way of life, rather
> than supporting their development as they would choose.  Think about the
> vast and growing poverty that has been the result in so many places.
> That wide array of broken societies appears to include all the world's
> uncontrolled population growth.  It's this huge number of societies
> largely destroyed by the wealth invasion that are the problem, not our
> ability to make money from it.

The paper was developed in an anthro class - so respect for indigenous
culture was paramount - and in fact provided arguments for why the 12v
solution was "better" than the efforts then underway.

Cultural change, specifically that induced by the introduction/adoption
of technology was my focus as a grad student.  Except for some rather
general patterns (e.g. a technology that provides a surplus, like
agriculture, always leads to the establishment of organized religion
followed closely by some form of "statist" government; or, introduction
of affordable personal transportation like cars or snowmobiles leads to
an increase in sexual promiscuity and breakdown of nuclear families) the
unpredictability of results from a change is extremely high.


> 
> What could 'we' do?  I think for so many of the disasters erupting from
> our unthinking interference in nature, learning and speaking the truth
> is the first thing needed.   Then the model I heard talked about this
> week at the AAAS sustainability science sessions was an all stakeholders
> directed research model, involving professionals, organizations, locals,
> funding and organizers, maybe using a systematic holistic learning
> process like my 4Dsustainability learning process.  The trick, whatever
> process, seems to be to have the key 'hubs' in place, particularly the
> committed and directly involved funding organization and a few 'boundary
> spanning' individuals.  If you only have one of the latter the whole
> project is in jeopardy of failure if they turn up missing one day.
> 

Personally, I think cutlure and culture change is the prototypical
complex system and anyone that thinks they can comprehend the system
sufficient to "plan" and change is whistling in the dark.

davew


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> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Prof David West
> > Sent: Saturday, February 16, 2008 8:40 PM
> > To: The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group
> > Subject: Re: [FRIAM] limits of leapfrogging
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > Late eighties - lowly grad student taking a development 
> > course as part of his anthropology course.  Term paper 
> > concerned the feasibility of starting a 12volt appliance 
> > manufacturing business in Africa with the initial market 
> > being the RV crowd in the U.S.  Within a relatively short 
> > time the domestic market would pick up as locals earned 
> > manufacturing wages.  Local power to locally purchased 
> > appliances would come from using the relatively crude solar 
> > cell technology of that date.  The total cost would have been 
> > about .4% of what was then being invested in establishing 
> > hydro power generation and high voltage distribution network. 
> >  Fast forward thirty years and the the Green trend that was 
> > nascent then is in full flower and more and more effort is 
> > being put into 12v as people seek to leave the grid.  And a 
> > solar cell panel on each rooftop is far less amenable to a 
> > terrorist threat than the single tower that can bring down 
> > the entire distribution network.
> > 
> > I suspect that there are a lot more opportunities for 
> > leapfrogging than the establishment would have us believe.
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > On Thu, 14 Feb 2008 17:55:16 -0700, "Owen Densmore" 
> > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said:
> > > The economist has a thought provoking article on the limits of
> > > leapfrogging:
> > > http://www.economist.com/opinion/displaystory.cfm?story_id=10650775
> > > .. and attached for convenience.
> > >
> > > The idea is that, although in a few cases new technologies can be
> > > deployed in developing countries .. and sometimes better than the  
> > > developed countries, new technologies often depend on older 
> > ones, thus  
> > > cannot easily be deployed by leapfrogging the older ones.
> > >
> > >      -- Owen
> > >
> > > MOBILE phones are frequently held up as a good example of 
> > technology's
> > > ability to transform the fortunes of people in the 
> > developing world.  
> > > In places with bad roads, few trains and parlous land 
> > lines, mobile  
> > > phones substitute for travel, allow price data to be 
> > distributed more  
> > > quickly and easily, enable traders to reach wider markets and  
> > > generally make it easier to do business. The mobile phone 
> > is also a  
> > > wonderful example of a “leapfrog” technology: it has enabled  
> > > developing countries to skip the fixed-line technology of the 20th  
> > > century and move straight to the mobile technology of the 
> > 21st. Surely  
> > > other technologies can do the same?
> > >
> > > Alas, the mobile phone turns out to be rather unusual. Its 
> > very nature
> > > makes it an especially good leapfrogger: it works using radio, so  
> > > there is no need to rely on physical infrastructure such as 
> > roads and  
> > > phone wires; base-stations can be powered using their own 
> > generators  
> > > in places where there is no electrical grid; and you do not 
> > have to be  
> > > literate to use a phone, which is handy if your country's 
> > education  
> > > system is in a mess. There are some other examples of leapfrog  
> > > technologies that can promote development—moving straight 
> > to local,  
> > > small-scale electricity generation based on solar panels or 
> > biomass,  
> > > for example, rather than building a centralised 
> > power-transmission grid
> > > —but there may not be very many.
> > >
> > > Indeed, as a recent report from the World Bank points out (see
> > > article), it is the presence of a solid foundation of intermediate  
> > > technology that determines whether the latest technologies become  
> > > widely diffused. It is all too easy to forget that in the 
> > developed  
> > > world, the 21st century's gizmos are underpinned by infrastructure  
> > > that often dates back to the 20th or even the 19th. Computers and  
> > > broadband links are not much use without a reliable 
> > electrical supply,  
> > > for example, and the latest medical gear is not terribly 
> > helpful in a  
> > > country that lacks basic sanitation and health-care facilities. A  
> > > project to provide every hospital in Ethiopia with an internet  
> > > connection was abandoned a couple of years ago when it 
> > became apparent  
> > > that the lack of internet access was the least of the hospitals'  
> > > worries. And despite the clever technical design of the 
> > $100 laptop,  
> > > which is intended to bring computing within the reach of 
> > the world's  
> > > poorest children, sceptics wonder whether the money might 
> > be better  
> > > spent on schoolrooms, teacher training and books.
> > >
> > > The World Bank's researchers looked at 28 examples of new 
> > technologies
> > > that achieved a market penetration of at least 5% in the developed  
> > > world, and found that 23 of them went on to manage a 
> > penetration of  
> > > over 50%. Once early adopters latch onto something new and 
> > useful, in  
> > > other words, the rest of the population can quickly follow. The  
> > > researchers then considered 67 new technologies that had 
> > achieved a 5%  
> > > penetration in the developing world, and found that only 
> > six of them  
> > > went on to reach 50%. That suggests that although new 
> > technologies are  
> > > often adopted by a small minority of people in poor 
> > countries, they  
> > > then fail to achieve widespread diffusion, so their 
> > benefits do not  
> > > become more generally available.
> > >
> > > Lavatories before laptops
> > > The World Bank concludes that a country's capacity to absorb and
> > > benefit from new technology depends on the availability of 
> > more basic  
> > > forms of infrastructure. This has clear implications for 
> > development  
> > > policy. Building a fibre-optic backbone or putting plasma 
> > screens into  
> > > schools may be much more glamorous than building electrical grids,  
> > > sewerage systems, water pipelines, roads, railways and schools. It  
> > > would be great if you could always jump straight to the high-tech  
> > > solution, as you can with mobile phones. But with 
> > technology, as with  
> > > education, health care and economic development, such 
> > short-cuts are  
> > > rare. Most of the time, to go high-tech, you need to have 
> > gone medium-
> > > tech first.
> > >
> > >
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