Apropos of which, my contractor tells me that geothermal heating/ cooling systems (using shallow trenches at 57F and a delta-T heat- pump to surface temperatures) work great.

Perhaps that's what Paul's guests had in mind. Although I still don't know what happens when the surface ambient is 57F...
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On Dec 26, 2007, at 5:47 PM, Stephen Guerin wrote:

If you put a heater in one corner of the room and a cooler in an
opposite corner, this second system would have free energy and a device could be
introduced to extract work from it.

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