Owen--I'm curious about this as well. In the late 1990s back in Baltimore I asked a SWARM programmer at Hopkins what language I should work with to avoid the heartbreak of Java but still be able to create ABMs. Squeak, he said. Messed with it some but then the Netlogo empire started cranking up and I converted.
I'll be interested to read how FRIAM'ers evaluate it. Mike On Sep 13, 2006, at 9:43 AM, Owen Densmore wrote: > Hmm..this leads me to ask the question: > Who of us currently uses Smalltalk/Squeak? > If so, which implementation? > > I'd be interested in your experiences. We often talk about rapid > prototyping, but we seldom actually do it. But my friends at PARC in > the early days, and a couple of hold-outs at SunLabs could perform > magic very, very quickly. > > I like this quote from the Squeak web site: > > You may be familiar with other open source languages like Ruby or > Python, but Squeak takes these concepts much, much further offering a > true uniform fully reflective environment - real live objects. > > "The real romance is out ahead and yet to come. The computer > revolution hasn't started yet. Don't be misled by the enormous > flow of money into bad defacto standards for unsophisticated > buyers > using poor adaptations of incomplete ideas." > - Alan Kay > > > -- Owen > > Owen Densmore http://backspaces.net > > > On Sep 12, 2006, at 6:38 PM, Giles Bowkett wrote: > >> http://video.google.com/videoplay? >> docid=-9059529534041031582&q=seaside >> >> -- >> Giles Bowkett >> http://www.gilesgoatboy.org >> >> ============================================================ >> FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv >> Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College >> lectures, archives, unsubscribe, maps at http://www.friam.org > > > ============================================================ > FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv > Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College > lectures, archives, unsubscribe, maps at http://www.friam.org ============================================================ FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College lectures, archives, unsubscribe, maps at http://www.friam.org
