Yes, there is some documentation of how to do this on our website. I defer to 
Doug on the particulars

Bruce

From: freesurfer-boun...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu 
<freesurfer-boun...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu> On Behalf Of Ornaith O Reilly
Sent: Wednesday, April 28, 2021 4:30 PM
To: Freesurfer support list <freesurfer@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu>
Subject: Re: [Freesurfer] Cortical surface analysis


        External Email - Use Caution
Hi Bruce,
Thanks a lot for this.  What is the difference between RAS and surface RAS?

Do I need to convert the surface RAS into RAS to be dealing in the volume space?

Kind Regards,
Ornaith

On Tue, 27 Apr 2021 at 15:44, Fischl, Bruce 
<bfis...@mgh.harvard.edu<mailto:bfis...@mgh.harvard.edu>> wrote:
All the surface vertices are just listed in order. The patch keep track of 
which vertex it corresponds to (so you can just use pial_surface[patch.vno] or 
something).

The coordinates are documented on our website and are “surface ras”.

Cheers
Bruce

From: 
freesurfer-boun...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu<mailto:freesurfer-boun...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu>
 
<freesurfer-boun...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu<mailto:freesurfer-boun...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu>>
 On Behalf Of Ornaith O Reilly
Sent: Tuesday, April 27, 2021 8:02 AM
To: Freesurfer support list 
<freesurfer@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu<mailto:freesurfer@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu>>
Subject: Re: [Freesurfer] Cortical surface analysis


        External Email - Use Caution
Hi Bruce,

Yes I read in the patch the way that you're suggesting and I can access the 
vino for the flat map.  But how do i know the vertex number of each vertex in 
the pial surface?  Are they in order ?

Also, what coordinate system is the pial surface in when its read into 
FreeSurfer? Is it RAS or surface RAS?

Kind Regards,
Ornaith

On Wed, 7 Apr 2021 at 20:02, Fischl, Bruce 
<bfis...@mgh.harvard.edu<mailto:bfis...@mgh.harvard.edu>> wrote:
How do you read it in? If you are using the read_patch.m that we distribute it 
should be stored in patch.vno if you do:

>> patch = read_patch(path_file_name)


From: 
freesurfer-boun...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu<mailto:freesurfer-boun...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu>
 
<freesurfer-boun...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu<mailto:freesurfer-boun...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu>>
 On Behalf Of Ornaith O Reilly
Sent: Wednesday, April 7, 2021 2:29 PM
To: Freesurfer support list 
<freesurfer@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu<mailto:freesurfer@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu>>
Subject: Re: [Freesurfer] Cortical surface analysis


        External Email - Use Caution
Hi Bruce,

Thanks so much for your quick reply, I really appreciate your help on this.

I don't understand how to recover the vertex index.

In Freeview I can see the vertex index number.  When I load in the data to 
MATLAB as discussed - the only thing that I have access to are the coordinates 
of the vertices - not the vertex index.  How can I recover the vertex indices 
as well?

Thanks again.

Kind Regards,
Ornaith


On Tue, 6 Apr 2021 at 19:31, Fischl, Bruce 
<bfis...@mgh.harvard.edu<mailto:bfis...@mgh.harvard.edu>> wrote:
Hi Ornaith

The mapping uses the vertex index. That is, the vertex index is stored in the 
flatmap, so you should always be able to recover it, then look up the location 
of that vertex on any other surface (of the same hemisphere/subject)

Cheers
Bruce

From: 
freesurfer-boun...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu<mailto:freesurfer-boun...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu>
 
<freesurfer-boun...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu<mailto:freesurfer-boun...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu>>
 On Behalf Of Ornaith O Reilly
Sent: Tuesday, April 6, 2021 2:19 PM
To: Freesurfer support list 
<freesurfer@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu<mailto:freesurfer@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu>>
Subject: Re: [Freesurfer] Cortical surface analysis


        External Email - Use Caution
Hello FreeSurfer developers,

Thanks a lot for your help.  I have initialised the pialxyz the way you 
suggested and made the flatmap in MatLab using the read_patch function 
(screenshots attached).  I still don't understand how to convert between the 
two.  For example how to see what point (x,y,z) on the pial surface corresponds 
to what (x,y) point on the flatmap.

Thanks a lot for your help.

Kind Regards,
Ornaith



On Tue, 16 Mar 2021 at 15:58, Douglas N. Greve 
<dgr...@mgh.harvard.edu<mailto:dgr...@mgh.harvard.edu>> wrote:

On 3/8/2021 11:38 AM, Ornaith O Reilly wrote:

        External Email - Use Caution
Hello Freesurfer developers,

I am new to Freesurfer and I'm hoping that someone can help me.

My goal is to be able to visualise electrodes contacts that are on lying on the 
cortical surface on a flat map and a spherical map.

I've run recon-all and created the flatmap.

I'm using Matlab to achieve this and I've loaded the information with the lines

lhsphere = 
fs_read_surf('/Applications/freesurfer/7.1.1/subjects/IM-0001/surf/lh.sphere');
lhflatpatch=fs_read_patch('/Applications/freesurfer/7.1.1/subjects/IM-0001/surf/lh.full.flat.patch.3D');

1. I want to be able to access the coordinates and show the electrons on the 
flat map/ sphere and I was wondering how to do this?  I understand that the 
vertex ID number is what relates the coordinates in the original image to these 
surfaces.  I am wondering how to access the vertex ID numbers ?  At the moment 
I think that I only have access to the vertex coordinates and the vertex faces.
The easiest way to do this is probably to map the white or pial xyz into an mgz 
file using mri_surf2surf, eg
mri_surf2surf  --hemi lh   --sval-xyz white --tval lh.white.xyz.mgz   --s 
yoursubject
You can then get the xyz of a given vertex by reading
whitexyz = MRIread('lh.white.xyz.mgz');

2. Additionally, I was wondering if there is a way to display the surface 
images through Matlab?  What would be the best way to show the surface with the 
electrons overlaid on it?
I know there are ways, but I don't know their details

The version of Freesurfer and the platform that I'm using is outlined below:
1) FreeSurfer version: freesurfer-darwin-macOS-7.1.1-20200811-8b40551
2) Platform: macOS High Sierra 10.13.6 (17G7024)

I really appreciate any help with this as I'm really stuck.

Thanks in advance for any help.

Kind Regards,
Ornaith O'Reilly


_______________________________________________

Freesurfer mailing list

Freesurfer@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu<mailto:Freesurfer@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu>

MailScanner has detected a possible fraud attempt from "secure-web.cisco.com" 
claiming to be 
https://mail.nmr.mgh.harvard.edu/mailman/listinfo/freesurfer<https://secure-web.cisco.com/1Ogp5ZeoS72_H9fgRPteNOma_J9hPaTfdzd6HC3IGubCY3vT-6900ngXdEssiUKOEN83iJbaRuxNMiShdLlOKXEsjibjQ3746iu4iSesiMAO7FM0u9JNkAiZ3RbN0TT8aAzo0QUe3wE1wLOfCaW_LV58ZUFvu4Jp8VcRYtLlFq2jaZ4IhvfVwk9EAHZ2f2uNFvgXVQwrjI8lddgCE_MHRU2_3rGmlnYXAhqWlm22ouXXjaE7nx7oKhyinkx8WQ1Qz1t7wnWmQku8NFdH3eu0s6Q/https%3A%2F%2Fmail.nmr.mgh.harvard.edu%2Fmailman%2Flistinfo%2Ffreesurfer>

_______________________________________________
Freesurfer mailing list
Freesurfer@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu<mailto:Freesurfer@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu>
MailScanner has detected a possible fraud attempt from "secure-web.cisco.com" 
claiming to be 
https://mail.nmr.mgh.harvard.edu/mailman/listinfo/freesurfer<https://secure-web.cisco.com/1Ogp5ZeoS72_H9fgRPteNOma_J9hPaTfdzd6HC3IGubCY3vT-6900ngXdEssiUKOEN83iJbaRuxNMiShdLlOKXEsjibjQ3746iu4iSesiMAO7FM0u9JNkAiZ3RbN0TT8aAzo0QUe3wE1wLOfCaW_LV58ZUFvu4Jp8VcRYtLlFq2jaZ4IhvfVwk9EAHZ2f2uNFvgXVQwrjI8lddgCE_MHRU2_3rGmlnYXAhqWlm22ouXXjaE7nx7oKhyinkx8WQ1Qz1t7wnWmQku8NFdH3eu0s6Q/https%3A%2F%2Fmail.nmr.mgh.harvard.edu%2Fmailman%2Flistinfo%2Ffreesurfer>
_______________________________________________
Freesurfer mailing list
Freesurfer@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu<mailto:Freesurfer@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu>
MailScanner has detected a possible fraud attempt from "secure-web.cisco.com" 
claiming to be 
https://mail.nmr.mgh.harvard.edu/mailman/listinfo/freesurfer<https://secure-web.cisco.com/1I1PNb10uTGevPjzK0_T5DjLYdNQpKw1HSsrVrnYZ179WEfRQ3IE3szslsovY-jgkoHTqK-F4hR4siQ2rXJRA0bVvDKJQEG-Kn2GAI1heNKJstATEXkJ3p1JpRqpCKLD2I1jPOw0AYWGn4ThpEi7I7Ro0ZwbONrs6pLnGS3349Q08FQR_wRQc6N9K0cKlSk-3_nXkU8A4QBVAQ5Nl_bqBQLexDtLtQMPe-5AamZPdQthNg8TG76tFXSpTfiCPb5p5jkLyq59Fsa80tlywx0otdQ/https%3A%2F%2Fmail.nmr.mgh.harvard.edu%2Fmailman%2Flistinfo%2Ffreesurfer>
_______________________________________________
Freesurfer mailing list
Freesurfer@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu<mailto:Freesurfer@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu>
MailScanner has detected a possible fraud attempt from "secure-web.cisco.com" 
claiming to be 
https://mail.nmr.mgh.harvard.edu/mailman/listinfo/freesurfer<https://secure-web.cisco.com/13ECTorDkrsZkgjOR4TbCDCZexEsobOqsWP3xqIQ214KaFnTWJaqg68mt4-WOTImkHPkg1HO21XQxIFtFtdUxBAtYIauxEGnAlfGSHeHz3TPNSfBzEk72Q1o6y1dUQmAxC88ONKwSOXsymq-quqwLS5R_zOR2Om28eoryjL9q_ubptZdxBjZSJVZwSQ36viKvNhc-0OrhjNRBz5R_za6zhTSHSInIGAPywDBzFREGHAswbWu3MD2YBK5CTKlDDOpBZEJMhfHuPP7RNY529daoyA/https%3A%2F%2Fmail.nmr.mgh.harvard.edu%2Fmailman%2Flistinfo%2Ffreesurfer>
_______________________________________________
Freesurfer mailing list
Freesurfer@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu<mailto:Freesurfer@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu>
MailScanner has detected a possible fraud attempt from "secure-web.cisco.com" 
claiming to be 
https://mail.nmr.mgh.harvard.edu/mailman/listinfo/freesurfer<https://secure-web.cisco.com/13CuBIz-S54TcK37-KEXN52-oy09FZjKhFbCvS6Uovkwie8JDSNv0SHxDiJnD818B6imUf4UU3orR4Ftt7QIZtuhRXcDilXvivXy9NRFT1idB29UYw4UqjUL07nKGt1RsY0Gb9b9IvH__iZMyaXumIi538Ui_L6N72YRKeXbHAqoZ-10n7hpP0EhARunZjo5gjR3bAOaKszPmb8l32tg8JN4TTj6_z1UIEnYFbIebsymMOyWA7uD4xqeHvVr37I2rjG2jO2PcyT-Uf7GButBrVQ/https%3A%2F%2Fmail.nmr.mgh.harvard.edu%2Fmailman%2Flistinfo%2Ffreesurfer>
The information in this e-mail is intended only for the person to whom it is 
addressed. If you believe this e-mail was sent to you in error and the e-mail 
contains patient information, please contact the Mass General Brigham 
Compliance HelpLine at MailScanner has detected a possible fraud attempt from 
"secure-web.cisco.com" claiming to be 
http://www.massgeneralbrigham.org/complianceline<http://secure-web.cisco.com/1DAaZOUd_lRWLZU0VyrgmxArDzAEZspdzTDa2TCz4M3FB17O8v_2hCQJTwZ5RURwS3GvwakeLxHAVybg2SBmpO0MlWRXwmhG2j8uqwiLDmK_NJ7KRYy2HM8srouGVBeV66XyN7oR8L-HcZMFKeKroeIJnqSx4rOhB27D2Vt87gzXImYluaojWkxyj_cvYbLMRaFSCOuKtR_VxY3zq7IPxhI0UB6IubKp3t1tHeFgfotJ-bsjebXlgthKQAxV-YTuADeXR4amUtp9K9Knw9DE5Vw/http%3A%2F%2Fwww.massgeneralbrigham.org%2Fcomplianceline>
 . If the e-mail was sent to you in error but does not contain patient 
information, please contact the sender and properly dispose of the e-mail.
Please note that this e-mail is not secure (encrypted).  If you do not wish to 
continue communication over unencrypted e-mail, please notify the sender of 
this message immediately.  Continuing to send or respond to e-mail after 
receiving this message means you understand and accept this risk and wish to 
continue to communicate over unencrypted e-mail.
_______________________________________________
Freesurfer mailing list
Freesurfer@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu
https://mail.nmr.mgh.harvard.edu/mailman/listinfo/freesurfer
The information in this e-mail is intended only for the person to whom it is 
addressed. If you believe this e-mail was sent to you in error and the e-mail 
contains patient information, please contact the Mass General Brigham 
Compliance HelpLine at http://www.massgeneralbrigham.org/complianceline . If 
the e-mail was sent to you in error but does not contain patient information, 
please contact the sender and properly dispose of the e-mail.
Please note that this e-mail is not secure (encrypted).  If you do not wish to 
continue communication over unencrypted e-mail, please notify the sender of 
this message immediately.  Continuing to send or respond to e-mail after 
receiving this message means you understand and accept this risk and wish to 
continue to communicate over unencrypted e-mail. 

Reply via email to