you can still use contrasts.sig.mgh, I just don't know what the order is. You can run mri_segstats on the sig.mgh files from the individual contrasts, with either --avgwf or --sum, either way works.

On 8/24/2020 12:32 PM, Rizvi, Batool wrote:

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Thanks Dr. Greve, I’ll CC the FS support team this time as well.

That’s correct, I got the contrasts.sig.mgh file from QDEC.

So in order to get the p-values of each of the associations (for ex: age and cortical thinning), which command and input file should I use? Would it still be the mri_segstats command, but without the --avgwf option?

Thanks again for your help and time!

Batool

*From:* Douglas N. Greve <dgr...@mgh.harvard.edu>
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answers below. also, please remember to post to the list

On 8/21/2020 6:52 PM, Rizvi, Batool wrote:

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    Thank you Dr. Greve! This is very helpful! Just to confirm,
    similar to taking the effect of age, if I wanted to get the beta
    of Parietal WMH (my main continuous IV), I would just average
    betas 5-8?

    I  forgot to add this in my previous email, but I’m also trying to
    extract p-values of all the variables involved, and wasn’t sure
    how to. I tried running a couple different commands.

    When I ran this below command, I got a file with 1 column of 8
    numbers:

    mri_segstats --i contrasts.sig.mgh --annot fsaverage lh
    lh-Avg-long.thickness-spc-Parietal_WMH-Cor/mc-z.abs.th20.sig.ocn.annot
    --excludeid 0 --avgwf avgwfsig.dat

where did contrasts.sig.mgh come from? Was this created by QDEC?

    But when I tried the below command, I got a file with 1 number.

    mri_segstats --i
    lh-Avg-long.thickness-spc-Parietal_WMH-Cor/sig.mgh --annot
    fsaverage lh
    lh-Avg-long.thickness-spc-Parietal_WMH-Cor/mc-z.abs.th20.sig.ocn.annot
    --excludeid 0 --avgwf avgwfsig2.dat

    From the 1^st way (using contrasts.sig.mgh):

       -0.27711

       -2.51072

        0.42697

        0.62922

       -0.85069

        0.52623

        1.00393

       -0.42921

    From the 2^nd way (using sig.mgh)

      -2.51072

    I’m pasting my fsgd format once more:

    GroupDescriptorFile 1

    Title ParietalWMH_age_gender_APOe_EC_left

    MeasurementName long.thickness-spc

    Class APOE_statusNO-genderF

    Class APOE_statusYES-genderF

    Class APOE_statusNO-genderM

    Class APOE_statusYES-genderM

    Variables Parietal_WMH age_years Avg_ECthickness

    Input W38284_base APOE_statusNO-genderF 0.732010 85.830000 3.125000

    .. (only listing the 1^st Input line here)

    My contrast file (C.dat) looks like below:

    0 0 0 0 1 1 1 1 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0

    And I’m trying to find p-values for these variables’ associations
    w/ thickness: APOE status, gender, Parietal WMH, Age, Avg EC
    thickness.

Each contrast will have a sig file. But the command above will compute the average significance, which really does not mean anything

    Thanks so much again for all the help!

    Batool

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