changing amygdala to hippocampus shouldn't change the surfaces at all. If you upload the subject I'll take a look

On Tue, 28 Jan 2014, Thomas Fink wrote:

Yes, all we did in this case was change amygdala to hippocampus and in other
cases white matter to hippocampus or vice versa.

Thomas Fink Doktorand & wiss. Mitarb. 
Lehrstuhl für Neuropsychologie Mail: thomas.f...@psy.lmu.de
Phone: +49(0)89/2180-3123


On Tue, Jan 28, 2014 at 2:32 PM, Bruce Fischl <fis...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu>
wrote:
      can you cc the list? So all you did was change some voxels from
      hippocampus to amygdala?

      On Tue, 28 Jan 2014, Thomas Fink wrote:

            Hi Bruce,

            Sorry, these were .tifs. Now they are...

            Thanks

            On Mon, Jan 27, 2014 at 11:48 PM, Bruce Fischl
            <fis...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu>
            wrote:
                  Hi Thomas

                  what format are these in? Can you include
            extensions in the
                  files you send in the future?

                  thanks
                  Bruce
                  On Mon, 27 Jan 2014, Thomas Fink wrote:

                        Hi Bruce,

                        At the moment we are interested in the
            volumes and
                        thus we checked and
                        corrected the aseg-file (corrections
            done as
                        described in the
                        RecommendedReconstructions).
                        In the first attachment you can see the
            incorrect
                        automatic segementation of
                        the hippocampus and in the second what
            it looked
                        like after our corrections,
                        but before the new recon with the giant
            defect.

                        Cheerio,
                        Thomas

                        On Thu, Jan 23, 2014 at 10:39 PM, Bruce
            Fischl
                        <fis...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu>
                        wrote:
                              Hi Thomas

                              when you say errors in the
            hippocampus do you
                        mean the aseg or
                              the surfaces? If the surfaces,
            don't worry
                        about them as they
                              are not used in the hippocampal
            region. You
                        are probably
                              connecting the temporal lobe to
            the main body
                        of the white
                              matter creating a giant defect.

                              cheers
                              Bruce
                              On Mon, 20 Jan 2014, Thomas Fink
            wrote:


                                    Dear Freesurfer experts,

                                    We are using FS 5.1 and have
            several
                        participants
                                    with errors in the
                                    segmentation of the
            hippocampus and
                        other regions of
                                    the cortex. So far we
                                    did corrections to the
            hippocampus but
                        in 10 out of
                                    13 participants we got
                                    error messages listed below:

                                    Seven participants:

                                    -----

                                    CORRECTING DEFECT 0
            (vertices=74686,
                        convex
                                    hull=1605)

                                    Excessive topologic defect
            encountered:
                        could not
                                    allocate 390335770 edges
                                    for retessellation

                                    Cannot allocate memory

                                    Darwin NPSY.local 12.4.0
            Darwin Kernel
                        Version
                                    12.4.0: Wed May  1 17:57:12
                                    PDT 2013;
                        root:xnu-2050.24.15~1/RELEASE_X86_64
                                    x86_64

                                     -----

                                    One participant:

                                    -----

                                    mhtVoxelList_Add(189, 240,
            290, 260205):
                        complete
                                    list too big!

                                    mhtVoxelList_Add(189, 240,
            290, 260205):
                        complete
                                    list too big!

                                    No such file or directory

                                    marking ambiguous
            vertices...

                                    Too many intersected faces
            for face
                        255461 (126442,
                                    128896, 128873)

                                    No such file or directory

                                    Darwin NPSY.local 12.4.0
            Darwin Kernel
                        Version
                                    12.4.0: Wed May  1 17:57:12
                                    PDT 2013;
                        root:xnu-2050.24.15~1/RELEASE_X86_64
                                    x86_64

                                    -----

                                    One participant:

                                     -----

                                    CORRECTING DEFECT 14
            (vertices=33317,
                        convex
                                    hull=1285)

                                    mris_fix_topology(26738)
            malloc: ***
                                    mmap(size=1212047360) failed
            (error
                                    code=12)

                                    *** error: can't allocate
            region

                                    *** set a breakpoint in
                        malloc_error_break to debug

                                    Bus error

                                    Darwin NPSY.local 12.4.0
            Darwin Kernel
                        Version
                                    12.4.0: Wed May  1 17:57:12
                                    PDT 2013;
                        root:xnu-2050.24.15~1/RELEASE_X86_64
                                    x86_64

                                    -----

                                    One participant:

                                    -----

                                    Correction of the Topology

                                    Finding true center and
            radius of
                        Spherical
                                    Surface...done

                                    Surface centered at (0,0,0)
            with radius
                        100.0 in 11
                                    iterations

                                    marking ambiguous
            vertices...

                                    414500 ambiguous faces found
            in
                        tessellation

                                    segmenting defects...

                                    Bus error

                                    Darwin NPSY.local 12.4.0
            Darwin Kernel
                        Version
                                    12.4.0: Wed May  1 17:57:12
                                    PDT 2013;
                        root:xnu-2050.24.15~1/RELEASE_X86_64
                                    x86_64

                                    -----

                                    The error log says in all
            cases that
                        there is
                                    something wrong with the
                                    cerebellum. When we open the
            ?h
                        inflated.nofix file
                                    then we see the
                                    cerebellum added (see
            attached file) in
                        the
                                    hemisphere we made the
            edits. 

                                     We have no clue if or what
            we are doing
                        wrong and
                                    here are the steps we
                                    did:

                                     - open the files (tkmedit
            subject
                        norm.mgz
                                    -aseg.mgz 

                                    - Tool -> Configure
            Segmentation Brush
                        info ->
                                    select the hippocampus ->
            add
                                    voxels 

                                    - File -> save segmentation

                                    - run recon with "recon-all
            -autorecon2
                        -noaseg
                                    –autorecon3 -subjid subject
                                    -nuintensitycor-3T"

                                    So far we had no problems
            with our
                        subjects for all
                                    the previous steps
                                    (recon after wm, pial, ....
            edits) and
                        it did run
                                    smoothly.


                                    Any help would be greatly
            appreciated.

                                    Thomas Fink
            Mail: thomas.f...@psy.lmu.de




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