Hello Felix,

I'm terribly sorry that you've encountered this. This is exactly the reason why I mess with FreeDOS' installer only in a backed up, virtualized environment before I update it in a live, baremetal system.

What is exactly your use case for over 20 logical partitions? I see a lot of Linux distro names. If my assumption is correct that you keep just the root filesystems of those distros as separate partitions, then I think you might find it more comfortable to use LVM to allocate physical space from your drive, and then split it into logical volumes, independent of the governing partition table on your drive or even lack thereof.

Best regards,

Michał Dec

W dniu 15.10.2024 o 19:22, Jerome Shidel via Freedos-user pisze:

On Oct 14, 2024, at 9:47 PM, Felix Miata via Freedos-user 
<freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net> wrote:

Felix Miata composed on 2024-10-14 20:47 (UTC-0400):

After at least 3 decades, one might think a DOS disk partitioner, or the FreeDOS
installer, might have acquired an ability to not disturb anything that is part 
of
the target partition. No such was or is apparent. Now that FreeDOS is installed,
only it can be booted, because it presumed it OK to move the boot flag off the
partition on which I placed it. Fdisk remains of the errant notion that the boot
flag can only be valid on a DOS partition, which is wholly untrue. Now I must
locate some bootable Linux CD to boot for the singular purpose of changing two
bytes in the partition table in order to make my other 20+ operating systems
bootable again.
What other damage is awaiting my discovery once the boot flag is back where it 
was?
Turns out, lots of damage: about 29 logical partitions deleted. The following 
is how I
found it after FreeDOS installation:
DFSee Linux  17.0 : executing: fdisk -r- -w-
Command timestamp : Monday 2024-10-14 17:06:43
+---+--+--+-----------------+--------+--------+-----------+----------------------------------------+-----------+
|ID |ux|Dr|Type, description|Format  |Related |VolumeLabel|OS2-LVM/BM / GPT / 
Crypt / additional in|  Size MiB |
+--[/dev/sda     MBR disk  1]--------+--------+-----------[ST160 PATA 
9RX4RLF0]--------------------+-----------+
|01*| 1|  |Hide 16 FAT16    |FAT16   |MSWIN4.1|P01WINDOS  |P01 WinDOS           
P01 WinDOS         |       39.2|
|02*| 2|  |Prim 0b FAT32    |FAT32   |FRDOS5.1|P02FREEDOS |P02 FreeDOS          
P02 FreeDOS        |      243.2|
|03>| 3|  |Prim 83 LinuxNatv|EXT2    |GRUB    |03boot     |P03 Real /boot       
P03 Real /boot     |      400.1|
|04 | 5|  |Log  82 SunS/SWAP|SWAP    |LinuxV1 |SWAPSPACE2 |P05 swapper          
P05 swapper        |      188.2|
|08 |  |  |FreeSpace Logical|-- -- --|-- -- --|- - - - - -|                     
                   |   151757.1|

Because the partitioner I use logs, I only needed to view the previous log
to recreate that which was deleted, with result identical to the state in
which FreeDOS found it:
DFSee Linux  17.0 : executing: part
Command timestamp : Monday 2024-10-14 17:19:05
+---+--+--+-----------------+--------+--------+-----------+----------------------------------------+-----------+
|ID |ux|Dr|Type, description|Format  |Related |VolumeLabel|OS2-LVM/BM / GPT / 
Crypt / additional in|  Size MiB |
+--[/dev/sda     MBR disk  1]--------+--------+-----------[ST160 PATA 
9RX4RLF0]--------------------+-----------+
|01*| 1|  |Hide 16 FAT16    |FAT16   |MSWIN4.1|P01WINDOS  |P01 WinDOS           
P01 WinDOS         |       39.2|
|02*| 2|  |Prim 0b FAT32    |FAT32   |FRDOS5.1|P02FREEDOS |P02 FreeDOS          
P02 FreeDOS        |      243.2|
|03>| 3|  |Prim 83 LinuxNatv|EXT2    |GRUB    |03boot     |P03 Real /boot       
P03 Real /boot     |      400.1|
|04 | 5|  |Log  82 SunS/SWAP|SWAP    |LinuxV1 |SWAPSPACE2 |P05 swapper          
P05 swapper        |      188.2|
|05 | 6|  |Lhid 11 FAT12    |FAT12   |mkdosfs |DUMMY      |P06 dummy            
P06 dummy          |        7.8|
|06 | 7|  |Log  06 FAT16    |FAT16   |-DFSee- |P06 SS16A  |P07 DOS data         
P07 DOS data       |      251.0|
|07*| 8|  |Log  83 LinuxNatv|EXT3    |GRUB    |08stw      |P08 TW Slowroll      
P08 TW Slowroll    |     5600.8|
|08*| 9|  |Log  83 LinuxNatv|EXT3    |GRUB    |suse114    |P09 suse114          
P09 suse114        |     4800.6|
|09*|10|  |Log  83 LinuxNatv|EXT3    |GRUB    |suse121    |P10 suse121          
P10 suse121        |     4800.6|
|10*|11|  |Log  83 LinuxNatv|EXT3    |GRUB    |suse122    |P11 suse122          
P11 suse122        |     4800.6|
|11*|12|  |Log  83 LinuxNatv|EXT3    |GRUB    |suse123    |P12 suse123          
P12 suse123        |     4800.6|
|12 |13|  |Log  83 LinuxNatv|EXT3    |Linux   |13home     |P13 /home            
P13 /home          |     7201.0|
|13 |14|  |Log  83 LinuxNatv|EXT3    |Linux   |14usrlcl   |P14 /usr/local       
P14 /usr/local     |     2047.3|
|14 |15|  |Log  83 LinuxNatv|EXT3    |Linux   |15pub      |P15 /pub             
P15 /pub           |     8589.4|
|15*|16|  |Log  83 LinuxNatv|EXT3    |GRUB    |suse131    |P16 suse131          
P16 suse131        |     4800.6|
|16*|17|  |Log  83 LinuxNatv|EXT3    |GRUB    |f21p17     |P17 Fedora 21        
P17 Fedora 21      |     4800.6|
|17*|18|  |Log  83 LinuxNatv|EXT3    |GRUB    |f24p18     |P18 Fedora 24        
P18 Fedora 24      |     4800.6|
|18*|19|  |Log  83 LinuxNatv|EXT3    |GRUB    |19sslo     |P19 TW Slowroll      
P19 TW Slowroll    |     5600.8|
|19*|20|  |Log  83 LinuxNatv|EXT3    |GRUB    |20mga09    |P20 Mageia 9         
P20 Mageia 9       |     5600.8|
|20*|21|  |Log  83 LinuxNatv|EXT3    |GRUB    |f28p21     |P21 Fedora 28        
P21 Fedora 28      |     4800.6|
|21*|22|  |Log  83 LinuxNatv|EXT3    |GRUB    |suse132    |P22 suse132          
P22 suse132        |     4800.6|
|22*|23|  |Log  83 LinuxNatv|EXT3    |GRUB    |debian13   |Debian 13 Trixie     
Debian 13 Trixie   |     5600.8|
|23 |24|  |Log  83 LinuxNatv|unknown |Linux   |           |-                    
                   |     5600.8|
|24 |25|  |Log  83 LinuxNatv|unknown |Linux   |           |-                    
                   |     5600.8|
|25 |26|  |Log  83 LinuxNatv|unknown |Linux   |           |-                    
                   |     5600.8|
|26 |27|  |Log  83 LinuxNatv|unknown |Linux   |           |                     
                   |     5600.8|
|27 |  |  |FreeSpace Logical|-- -- --|-- -- --|- - - - - -|                     
                   |     2651.4|
|27*|28|  |Log  83 LinuxNatv|EXT3    |GRUB    |mageia8    |Mageia 8             
Mageia 8           |     4800.6|
|28*|29|  |Log  83 LinuxNatv|EXT3    |GRUB    |debian10   |Debian 10 Buster     
Debian 10 Buster   |     4800.6|
|29*|30|  |Log  83 LinuxNatv|EXT3    |GRUB    |f30p30     |P30 Fedora 30        
P30 Fedora 30      |     4800.6|
|30*|31|  |Log  83 LinuxNatv|EXT3    |GRUB    |debian11   |Debian 11 Bullseye   
Debian 11 Bullseye |     4800.6|
|31*|32|  |Log  83 LinuxNatv|EXT3    |GRUB    |debian12   |Debian 12 Bookworm   
Debian 12 Bookworm |     5600.8|
|32*|33|  |Log  83 LinuxNatv|EXT3    |GRUB    |fedor29    |Fedora 29            
Fedora 29          |     4800.6|
|36 |  |  |FreeSpace Logical|-- -- --|-- -- --|- - - - - -|                     
                   |    13392.6|

All good now, but disappointed in FreeDOS.
--
Evolution as taught in public schools is, like religion,
        based on faith, not based on science.

Team OS/2 ** Reg. Linux User #211409 ** a11y rocks!

Felix Miata
The Installer uses FDISK for partitioning and changing the Boot Flag. When 
possible, it will automatically partition the drive behind scenes in Normal 
mode. If that is not possible or advanced mode is being used, it will launch 
FDISK form manual partitioning.

Like nearly all other operating systems, it will also make the installation the 
active partition by default. See all other DOS or Windows versions. This is a 
common practice and should be assumed to occur. However, the Installer may 
possibly be updated at some point to prompt for this action when run in 
advanced mode.

Unfortunately, there were a number of serious bugs in the version of FDISK that 
was available for FreeDOS 1.3. Some, bugs involve incorrect values being 
generated for partition sizes. And if I recall correctly, there was also a bug 
that would cause FDISK to modify the partition table just by accessing it.

Even if the Installer provided the option to not update the Boot Flag, it 
absolutely needs to check for what partitions exist. Once again, if I recall 
correctly, simply checking the partition table with that version of FDISK would 
most likely damage such a complex partition table.

There have been numerous fixes to FDISK and other programs since the release of 
1.3 that are included on the monthly FreeDOS Interim Test Builds ( available at 
https://www.ibiblio.org/pub/micro/pc-stuff/freedos/files/distributions/test/ ). 
However, I would still back up the boot code and partition table using a 
utility like MBRtool.

Jerome




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