On Tue, Apr 27, 2021 at 2:45 AM Thomas Desi <t...@mttw.at> wrote:
>
> Hi Jim,
>
> yes, the roff-troff-groff (sounds like barking?) story reminds me in
>some way to FreeDos.
>
> Compared to LaTex (or Tex), groff is so much leaner and easier. It
>is still well maintained and usable.
>
> It allows output to html, text, ps, pdf… and regarding typsetting
>hardly anything coming near, if one has the eye for it. The source
>file can easily be created by any DOS editor. The rendering can be
>done on *ux, Windwos or Mac.
>
> Groff -MOM was a »nice try« for prose writing, but to have all those
>long instructions to type, feels counterproductive. if you would want
>to have a very beautiful typesetted novel or book, (better avoid
>images!) - and have some time to understand the inner workings of
>»-mom«, this might be the best rendering.
>
> You are right, Jim, the -me and -ms instructions are so handy and
> short that I don’t think -mom ever cought on. It is though really
> well documentated.
[..]

I've used LaTeX too. It's a good system and was a perfect fit when I
needed to write documents that included equations (during my time at
university as a physics undergraduate student). But once I didn't need
to do that anymore, I stopped using LaTeX to write documents.

When I first switched to Linux, I dual-booted with DOS so I could run
my DOS applications like my word processor (WordPerfect, then Galaxy)
and spreadsheet (As-Easy-As). But for some things, I learned how to
use groff to write documents. I already knew LaTeX, so groff wasn't
too hard to pick up. I think I learned -mm first, but found -me was
easier to write papers for class, so I used that instead. And I kind
of stuck with it. These days, I don't often write in groff, but I do
so just often enough that I still remember how to write with it. It's
an elegant system in its own way. And it has an interesting history,
if you like computer history. (See Kernighan's 'UNIX: A History and a
Memoir.')

I don't have the energy to learn a new macro system, so that's
probably why I haven't been able to stick with -mom. I already know
how to use -me and I don't *need* to learn another one. So the -mom
macros never stick with me.

Jim


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