> > > On Sat, Aug 22, 2020 at 11:39 AM ZB <zbigniew2...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > >  https://sites.google.com/site/vdeeditor/Home
> > > >
> > > >  (see "Files Section")
> > > >
> > > > it seems it may be interesting to some

> > On Sat, Aug 22, 2020 at 11:38 AM dmccunney <dennis.mccun...@gmail.com>
wrote:
> > > I'm the person who created and maintains that site.
> > >
> > > VDE is a clone of the WordStar editor and uses the WordStar command
set,
> > >
> > > VDE's home page had been on the Short Stop DOS software site created
> > > by Steve Adelewitz.  Steve died of a heart attack and Short Stop went
> > > off the air suddenly.  VDE also had a mailing list hosted on the
> > > Topica site.  Topica changed its business model and mailing lists went
> > > away.  In cooperation with VDE author Eric Meyer and List Mommy Ben
> > > Cohen, I  migrated the mailing list to a Google Group, and in
> > > cooperation with Eric created a new VDE home page.
> > [..]

> On Sun, Aug 23, 2020 at 4:33 PM Jim Hall <jh...@freedos.org> wrote:
> > I'm curious if the source code to VDE has even been released. I don't
> > see any source code on the website, so I suspect the answer is no.

On Sun, Aug 23, 2020 at 4:06 PM dmccunney <dennis.mccun...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Correct. It has not been released, and won't be. Why should it?  VDE
> is pure assembler, and IIRC, the assembler Eric used is no longer
> available.  You would have challenges trying to build and extend it if
> you *had* the source. (And given the issues getting folks to update
> FreeDOS and other packages, who would actually try to do anything with
> the source? ASM programmers are something of an endangered species,
> because hardware is fast and cheap enough that you don't *have* to
> write in  assembler to get needed performance.)
>
> In the early DOS days, VDE was a shareware product, along with editors
> like Qedit.  These days it's copyrighted freeware.  Use it and pass it
> along all you like, but you can't get the source.
>
> So VDE isn't something you might want to mirror on Ibiblio, but it
> *is* something people might find worth running under *DOS.

That's why I was asking (mirror on ibiblio).

I had remembered VDE from its shareware days. I had missed that it was
re-released as copyrighted freeware. (See below - highlights are mine.)
That's interesting - I'll have to try it again.

>From the "About" page:
https://sites.google.com/site/vdeeditor/Home/about-vde

>     VDE started out as freeware; the DOS version switched to shareware
>(with licensing required for commercial use) from 1988 to 2002, and has
>since returned to freeware status.  Even during its shareware period, VDE
>was released in fully functional form without nagging displays, and
>individual use was still freely allowed (a spelling-checker module was
>offered as an incentive for registration).  VDE has been widely distributed
>by software libraries and online, and bundled with outdated computers for
>use by the disadvantaged.  It's been my own most-used software for over 20
>years, and my wish has always been that it should also be useful to as many
>others as possible.
>                                         -- Eric Meyer (April 2009)



Thanks for hosting the VDE website. This is a cool piece of history.

Jim
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