I think this is an oversight in FreeDOS 1.3. I did review UDVD2 and the
others and said they were ok for FreeDOS 1.3. They are listed as such
(green) on the Packages page.
http://wiki.freedos.org/wiki/index.php/Releases/1.3/Packages


Unless I'm missing something?

Jim

On Mon, Mar 9, 2020, 5:59 AM Eric Auer <e.a...@jpberlin.de> wrote:

>
> Hi Rugxulo, Jerome, Jim et al,
>
> > The full 1.2 release was from late 2016 / early 2017.
> > It hasn't changed.
>
> Good point, although 1.3 is still pending, so people
> might still want to update while they only have 1.2.
>
> > As far as I'm concerned, UIDE [sic] died in 2015.
>
> Another reason to switch to UHDD and UDVD2.
>
> > That makes no sense (to me). UHDD.SYS (from 2015) indeed had a
> > surprise update in early 2019 (dunno what changed, ask Jim), but
> > UDVD2.SYS is still dated 2015.
> >
> > *
> https://www.ibiblio.org/pub/micro/pc-stuff/freedos/files/dos/cdrom/uide/
> >
> > "It would probably be better" ... if XIDE/XHDD/XDVD2 (or whatever he
> > calls it nowadays) wasn't unjustly "closed source" for five years!
>
> You do know that the 2019 version *does* include full sources
> of UDVD2, UHDD, UIDE and XMGR, I hope. And I do *not* remember
> attempts by other programmers to update them which would have
> failed during the period when sources were unpublished, simply
> because low level drivers rarely get updates from new people.
>
> Replying to my list, you ask for more exact descriptions of the
> improvements in the currently-on-ibiblio 2019 UHDD and UDVD2:
>
> Better performance: UHDD 10% faster with read-ahead than UIDE.
>
> 386 compatibility: UHDD can run on 386, while UIDE follows old
> Microsoft advice which causes XMS move errors on older 386 CPU.
>
> Improved drive detection and LBA: UHDD supports DMA on SSD (as
> well as CF) which claim to be "ATA / ATAPI" while UIDE would
> have ignored them as potentially optical, expecting *only* ATA
> to be supported. UIDE supports only old LBA for the first 128
> GB, while UHDD supports LBA48 and larger disks. Note that DOS
> itself has a 2 TB limit until somebody adds GPT partition code.
>
> Because UHDD (and UDVD2, in spite of being "old") recognize
> more drives as DMA/UDMA compatible, without false positives,
> they give much better performance in those cases compared to
> situations where UIDE fails to detect the DMA support. This
> can mean up to several *times* faster in EMM386 context, as
> a BIOS would rarely bother to call the VDMA API to support
> fast protected mode or VM86 disks on DMA and rather use PIO.
>
> > How is that even possible? Too many versions, too many
> > (alleged) bug fixes! Ridiculous!
>
> Being too annoyed to look at the new version will not make
> the new version worse. That is just your personal opinion.
>
> > These decisions (for FD 1.3) rely mostly on Jerome and Jim.
>
> Then I recommend UHDD and UDVD2 to Jerome and Jim, specifically.
>
> Regards, Eric
>
> PS: The drivers are deliberately freeware with sources without
> giving a specific license as the author is against fine print.
>
>
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