Hi,

(I feel like I'm turning into Linus Torvalds. Apologies to him for the
comparison.)

On Sat, Nov 4, 2017 at 3:47 PM, Eric Auer <e.a...@jpberlin.de> wrote:
>
> if umbpci and xmgr run more stable than jemm386, in particular
> regarding umb range autodetection, then it is no surprise that
> Dimitris is happy about those :-)

Please don't recommend broken software. I'm still waiting on
confirmation that the "drivers" work at all on FreeDOS. There's
absolutely no reason to mention them here if they won't even run
because he's (yet again) blacklisted OEM 0xFD in his binaries.
Seriously, anybody here willing to defend him, please actually try to
run his latest "drivers" before giving him the benefit of the doubt.

DOS users are *very* bad about not reporting bugs and regressions. I
long ago asked, several times, for other people to test his buggy
Mar-18-2015 "drivers", but no one ever did. That is not acceptable,
especially considering that is the straw that broke the camel's back.

I know a lot of DOS software isn't actively maintained. I know we
don't answer and fix every bug. It's a lot of work, quite honestly! We
can't do literally everything. But refusing to report bugs is "bad"
because no one can fix it if they don't know about it.

Again, constantly reminding us about "new" drivers (that *may* not
even run on FreeDOS proper) is insane.

> And you remember how long ago Japheth stopped maintenance and support for 
> jemm386

Except for JLOAD (and *.JLM), I think JEMM386 is "open source".
Apparently it uses OpenWatcom's Wmake and Wlink and JWasm. (Artistic
v1 and/or GPLv2 ?? But, AFAIK, all of Japheth's additions were public
domain.)

> Of course it would still be very nice to
> have simultaneously nice AND open source drivers...

We do have "open source" drivers. It's called GNU/Linux, FreeBSD (or
maybe OpenBSD, who refuses NDAs), Haiku, Minix, etc. All of those are
better. It's not worth chasing around permission from a disgruntled
ex-contributor. His work is not unique in such a big world. Patience
is not free either.

Having said that, you mention UMBPCI like it's mandatory. I don't use
that or even EMM386. I don't need more UMBs free. I get plenty free on
my "XMS only" FreeDOS setup. And HIMEMX works just fine, thank you. We
also have FDXXMS. Heck, we also have (2015-era) XMGR. What does (new?)
XMGR offer that 2015 didn't? Probably literally nothing. (Feel free to
correct me, but I don't think you will.)

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