On 8/19/2015 4:14 PM, Thomas Mueller wrote: > I believe I took a look at opengem but didn't get far. Opengem > couldn't integrate with other software as X Window system can. "Integrate" in which way? I don't have a DOS system running GEM handy right now, but all it takes is a short cut for it and proper DOS software will run, in text mode of course, just fine... > I used elvis in DR-DOS 7.03 and FreeDOS, but elvis hasn't been updated > since 2.2_0. I tried vim (7.0?) in DOS, had difficulty with more than > one file at a time, now use vi which is nvi, but this has not been > ported to DOS. Well, it's probably worse if you would have tried EMACS instead... (one joke from "back in those days" was that EMACS actually stands for "Eight Megabytes And Constantly Swapping") :-D ) > > I remember how elvis would bog down and become very slow as file size > exceeded 1.5 MB, no such problem in Linux Slackware and no such problem with > nvi in FreeBSD and NetBSD. Well, it's DOS, which is 16bit and hence you can not access 1.5MB in one piece, so that means your software needs to be smart enough to use XMS/EMS memory to expand the usable amount of RAM, which requires that this is properly integrated in the software's memory management. And considering that vi (in which ever incarnation) is *ix software, it isn't likely take this into account. IMHO, you are comparing apples and oranges here... > > I imagine only a small minority of computer users have ever heard of OpenGem. If you imagine that the majority of computer user might have been born after the demise of (Open)GEM, this isn't surprising.... > > I tried FDNPKG in FreeDOS, it worked some of the time, but other times it > messed up: not nearly as well developed as package management in Linux and > *BSD. Another case where people forcefully try to apply *ix/Linux type handling of things to (Free)DOS. IMHO, not much good can come out of this. Or at least people's expectations are far too high...
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