Hi, On Mon, May 13, 2013 at 5:36 PM, Pierre LaMontagne <plamo...@comcast.net> wrote: > From: e.a...@jpberlin.de > Subject: [Freedos-user] Bret Johnson USB driver documentation summary > attempt > >> You create the bootable stick using another PC / OS. > > Oh, ok!
RUFUS needs Windows, but "most" people have that. You can probably do it other ways, but I don't know how. (It can't be too hard, honestly. I think part of the problem is that some machines assume an MBR is there, and some don't.) >> People seem to recommend RUFUS for Windows for this which probably >> is much easier than sys-freedos.pl (sys-freedos-linux) :-) > > Linux is foreign to me, even though I have some interest in it... It ain't too bad, probably has better developer support. At least UNetBootIn and Fedora liveUSB installs work well, last I checked. So they must know how to do it (install to USB). >> F1or example Rugxulo should be able to explain Rufus afair. >> > "Rugxulo"? is this a user? "luser", yes. But no explanation needed, RUFUS is almost self-explanatory. http://rufus.akeo.ie/ >> When the BIOS can boot from USB storage it means that it >> knows how to access it. > > I'm pretty sure the BIOS on my old 733 can't boot from USB, I'm pretty sure > that my new PC > _can_ though... So, am I SOL on using a USB stick on the 733/FDOS PC? My old P4 couldn't boot from USB either. I ended up using PLoP boot manager, which (IIRC) can itself boot from floppy, hard drive, or CD: http://www.plop.at/en/bootmanager/index.html >> Note that usbdos only uses the slower >> USB UHCI or USB 1.1 transfer, but I think newer chipsets still >> support that as well > > On my old 733, I'm not certain, but I'm pretty sure the 2 total USB ports > are 1st gen. Do you know > how I can tell what they may be? IIRC, Bret's tools will tell you, but here I only tried once, saw "your computer is EHCI only" and gave up. :-/ >>... If you do not use PS/2 for those, > > I prefer a PS/2 keyboard and mouse. I have several mice that are > either-or(PS/2 or USB), a few > wireless USB-only mice, and a couple of wired PS/2 keyboards. FYI, my mouse started acting weird lately. I ended up moving it to a USB port (as many these days support both PS/2 and USB). The BIOS still emulates it in DOS, but I don't get wheel support anymore, and it's somewhat buggy (keeps randomly stuffing '7's into the keyboard buffer). Not that I really want to use a mouse in DOS, ever. > BTW, as for mouse support in DOS... I look at it like this: If the > software supports mouse, fine, if > it doesn't, no big whoop to me. Especially TEXT mode software. Yeah, mouse > support in a graphics > mode is nice, but it's not a must-have thing. It's often overkill, esp. since we have 100+ keys on a keyboard that can be used. Sure, very very rarely is it more precise, but usually it's a hassle (IMO). I consider it bad design and a crutch that you can't use a web browser (or similar GUI software) at all without a mouse. (Maybe some "accessibility" would help alleviate that, but I dunno. For some people, it may be better, some worse. I guess there is no universal answer.) >> Maybe somebody can make some "Bret USB driver cheatsheet" >> using snippets of the original 186 page document and this >> mail? Would be nice to have an intro on just 8 pages :-) > > For sure! :) A certain unnamed kernel developer's cheat sheet: "Just use Linux!" ;-)))) >> Regards, Eric > > Thanx Eric for all the info! It's much appreciated! :) Yes, he's one of our most invaluable veterans. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ AlienVault Unified Security Management (USM) platform delivers complete security visibility with the essential security capabilities. Easily and efficiently configure, manage, and operate all of your security controls from a single console and one unified framework. Download a free trial. http://p.sf.net/sfu/alienvault_d2d _______________________________________________ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
