DEBUG scripts? Wow. I miss those. The poor man's assembler.

I dropped my PC Magazine subscription when it went all Windows, back
in the late 90s.

This *is* the FreeDOS list, right? Haven't seen a post about that in awhile.

Bruce


On Thu, Jan 10, 2013 at 1:03 AM, Louis Santillan <lpsan...@gmail.com> wrote:
> There's always DEBUG & QBASIC. :D  Remember when magazines used to actually
> post DEBUG & QBASIC scripts.
>
> -L
>
>
> On Wed, Jan 9, 2013 at 9:54 PM, dmccunney <dennis.mccun...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> On Thu, Jan 10, 2013 at 12:45 AM, Rugxulo <rugx...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> > On Wed, Jan 9, 2013 at 8:06 PM, dmccunney <dennis.mccun...@gmail.com>
>> > wrote:
>> >> On Wed, Jan 9, 2013 at 8:35 PM, Ralf A. Quint <free...@gmx.net> wrote:
>> >>> At 05:12 PM 1/9/2013, Louis Santillan wrote:
>> >>>>An interesting historical note, early versions of the FreeDOS kernel
>> >>>>(DOS-C kernel) were portable to the 68k architecture. See
>>
>> >>>> >>>>(<http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pat_Villani>http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pat_Villani).
>> >>>
>> >>> Well, you noticed that in that reference, it also clearly states:
>> >>> "This move to a completely different target platform, while losing
>> >>> binary compatibility with existing applications,..."
>> >>
>> >> Which is your fundamental problem.  Even if you move DOS to a new
>> >> architecture, what do you run under it on that platform?  There isn't
>> >> anything, and there isn't a lot you can do with DOS all by itself.
>> >
>> > You'd have to port stuff to it. The easiest would be "strictly
>> > conformant" ANSI C stuff (or similar), just a recompile away. If you
>> > add a POSIX layer (like many do, and even PatV briefly considered for
>> > future endeavors), you get that too. So you could recompile things
>> > like gcc, vi, sed, awk, etc. Other older "legacy" stuff would have to
>> > run under an emulator (a la AROS).
>>
>> > It's not as useless or impossible as it seems, but then again, I don't
>> > expect this to happen (any time soon or if ever ...). "Just use Li^H^H
>> > ... POSIX" (sigh).
>>
>> Neither useless nor impossible, but who will bother?  There are simply
>> too few folks with a need for it.  It might happen a bit like Unix
>> did, where some of the commands were programmers at Bell Labs
>> scratching personal itches because *they* wanted a tool that did that
>> and could create one.
>>
>> But while you can arguably do useful work (if you're a programmer, at
>> least) on a bare bones Unix system with the standard utilities but
>> *no* third party apps, DOS isn't in the same league.  What can you do
>> with *only* DOS and *no* apps?  Not enough.
>> ______
>> Dennis
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