John,
I'll let Mike and others respond about the details of MS-Client - you should
note, however, that MS-Client is not FreeDOS software - it is Microsoft
software.
If I understand you correctly you are using networking only for the purpose of
accessing a printer on the host computer.
If this is true I would recommend using VMWare player and creating an LPT port
for your DOS application to use. (I don't think that this can be done in
VirtualBox) Then on the host Windows machine use NET USE or some other sort of
mapping technique to map LPT1 to the appropriate network printer.
Of course you will then get the usual problems with running a new printer with
old DOS programs. Do you have a DOS compatible printer?
If all you are doing with networking is printing on your local PC, I would get
rid of MS Client as well as the power management utitlities and see how your
application works.
For accessing drives I would again use VMWare and the excellent VMSMOUNT.EXE
program which will allow your DOS system to access any directory on the Windows
host - again without using networking software in DOS.
Dave
-----Original Message-----
From: john s wolter <johnswol...@wolterworks.com>
To: Michael B. Brutman <mbbrut...@brutman.com>
Cc: Discussion and general questions about FreeDOS.
<freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net>
Sent: Thu, Aug 16, 2012 9:05 pm
Subject: Re: [Freedos-user] FreeDos in VirtualBox not a sure thing
Mike,
Good to make your acquaintance. Let me respond to your questions and remarks
below.
On Thu, Aug 16, 2012 at 12:23 AM, Michael B. Brutman <mbbrut...@brutman.com>
wrote:
John,
Maybe you could help us by being very specific with what worked and what went
wrong? The only thing I could gather from your message was that it was
difficult to do, and it was slow.
I took a moment to get a specific speed measure. It is an extended ASC-II set
display application. Inside the VM I run an application batch file which among
other items like NET USEng a printer loads DEVLOADs NANSI.SYS.
Since the initial display is going at a slow rate I used a stopwatch to
estimate the time to display the first 40 characters. They are the upper
border line using 40 characters ' * ' . It took 4.7 seconds for those 40
characters to be displayed. That is 8.5 characters per second written to the
screen. That screen has a simple one column bar-menu that uses the up-down
arrows. Each entry of a up or down arrow has a lag to it.
I rate that as slow.
One thing that is essential for good performance is to ensure that your host
machine is new enough to support the virtual processor extensions in the CPU.
If it does not, then the virtual machine gets emulated one instruction at a
time. This is orders of magnitude slower than if you can use the virtual
processor extensions. My 3 year old Intel i5 Quad Core chip is fine, but
modern Atom processors do not have the extensions. Any virtual machine
(FreeDOS or otherwise) will be painful without them. It sounds like your
machine has the processor extensions, but you need to ensure they are enabled
in the BIOS.
Both the development and target are i5 Laptops with 6-8 GB RAMM. Those are the
most important performance spec.
The VT features are turned on. I have turned it off without any noticeable
difference in performance.
Even if you do not use the power saving TSRs or programs that are power aware,
the worst that will happen is that the virtual machine running FreeDOS will use
one of the host CPU cores. For a desktop system this is not a major problem.
On a laptop it will shorten battery life. You have a wide variety of TSRs to
choose from - FDAPM and DOSIDLE are my favorites so far.
I'm using the power saving FDAPM and APMDOS.. Why are the power saving
utilities are playing a role is a question?
FreeDOS's NANSI.SYS is used as it is required to see anything on the display.
SHARE is being loaded.
CIFS/SMB issues:
...Loading...
PROTOCOL.INI
SHARE
netbind
tcptsr
tinyrfc
nmtsr
emsbfr
NET CONFIG gives the default freeDOS computer and user information. The NET
VIEW gives the host but will not give information for the host attached
printer. I am able to NET USE LPT1: \\... to assign it. I had altered the
workgroup to the host's local workgroup. NT or Acitve Directory Domains are
NOT used. Simple workgroup networking is active.
It keeps asking for an ID and password for the printer. I provide the same as
I do signing on to the computer itself. I have not yet seen a way to
administer passwords for the directories or printers shared by the host. It
seems to get the ID but tells me the password does not match the printer's
password. Microsoft has done a great job of obscuring things.
One point of confusion is the setup of mTCP vs MS-Client. It is not clear how
independent these are of each other. Can one have a static IP while the other
gets a dynamic, DHCP?
I have just found the doc file in a sub-directory. I'm looking to mount the
iso as a disk drive. I'd prefer to load that into a directory and use it from
the directory. V-Box appears to prefers the iso be used as an iso.
Here's the iso that was a 1.1 beta with upgrades, see the change log at the
bottom of that page.
http://lazybrowndog.net/freedos/virtualbox/
I made changes to this page's setup. I chose the Host-Only Ethernet adapter as
I did not need to browse the Internet.
Cheers
John S Wolter
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