Op 3-11-2011 21:05, Jack schreef:

> Absolutely UNBELIEVABLE to me that FLASH devices are used AT ALL in
> hard-disk replacements!!   Last I knew, FLASH devices are writeable
> only about 10,000 times.   That is a LOW number of writes for disks
> if one considers DIRECTORY updates that any DOS system will do VERY
> often!!   Even using an old "Write Back" (delayed-write) cache like
> SMARTDRV, or Norton NCACHE2, I doubt that writes could be minimized
> enough to make limited-life FLASH device "disks" worth their cost!!

It's individual cells that are only rewriteable a limited number of 
times (might be 10K indeed as you mention). A nice little technology 
called Wear Leveling spreads out the writes pretty well (though quite a 
lot of static data might mean this won't go that well).

For all things besides cost and data recovery, a Solid State Disk is 
well worthwile (reduced access times, no noise, hardly any heat, etc). 
It acts same as a conventional harddisk, though the technology of NAND 
flash and controllers has its peculiarities.
Disk-On-Module and simple USB flash drives are a whole different thing, 
they're quite basic (single-channel for example). The exception is some 
fancy expensive USB3.0 flash sticks which can do sequential reads and 
writes over 100MB per second.

> If the DOM products have normal RAM chips (not FLASH types) and are
> as "compatible" with IDE controllers as everyone seems to say, then
> my next "hard disk" purchase shall be another actual HARD disk or a
> DOM module if necessary, NOT any sort of FLASH type!   Allows me to
> stay with UIDE, which may not use delayed-writes but takes only 944
> bytes of upper/DOS memory [plus a bit of "invisible" HMA] and gives
> me up to 4-GB caches!   Try to get even 1-GB using any "Write Back"
> cache, and I have 5 words for you:  "Good LUCK -- You'll NEED IT"!!

Best of both worlds would be a Seagate Momentus XT harddisk (not 
currently though, harddisk plants are underwater in thailand, causing 
huge price increases) as it's a conventional harddisk with a small 
amount of flash memory as buffer.

SSDs are worthwile but a lot of investigation is needed so people look 
beyond best-case scenario's regarding sequential speed and disregard 
quality/reliability (hello OCZ/SandForce and ancient JMicron 
controllers) and features (buffers, powerloss, TRIM, SCSI unmap command, 
other ways of garbage collection)

I tend to run DOS nowadays from either inside an emulator, or from a USB 
Flash drive. No access to my SSD in that last case, most drives nowadays 
are converted to the Windows world (100% capacity of drive as NTFS for 
Windows).

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