Hi Karen,

> it can take say two or three screen readers to equal the 
> functionality of one Dos based one.

Interesting, what makes the DOS ones so user friendly?

> screen readers for windows 
> are in the dictionary for richly problematical.

In what way? I remember them often being commercial
and pricy. Which is why indeed I was talking more
about Ubuntu, free system with free screenreaders.

> screen readers problematic in DOS?

What I meant is that with multitasking, you can
have one program running, a second collect the
screen contents, a third transforming them into
speech and a fourth sending that to your sound
card or even USB sound device. In DOS, you have
one program running and the screen reader TSR or
driver has to do all other tasks. This means if
you have a nice DOS version of, say, MBROLA or
festival text to speech systems, you cannot use
them "in the background" for your screen reader.

Instead, you can only use the voice system which
is built into the screen reader already, if any.

 > Never mind that tsrs even for dos programs have been moot since windows
 > 3.0, with dos applications, including screen readers employing
 > alternatives for task management.

I agree that with Windows 3.0 you can indeed run
several things more or less at the same time and
I even once had voice input and output software
for Win 3 which came with my Soundblaster AWE32
but I would not call that DOS voice software then.

As somebody else already said, playing audio on
a CD is something the drive does almost fully
in hardware, so it does not need multitasking.
I even once wrote a tiny DOS tool to play CD in
a simple command line way, or stop, eject etc.

I am impressed to hear that not only ISA sound
cards and serial port devices but even USB voice
synths come with DOS drivers, if I understand
you correctly? Is this only for dedicated voice
hardware or are there also screenreaders which
can output speech via any AC97, HDA or USB sound
card, with "one size fits all" hardware drivers?

The problem with ISA is that only computers until
the times of Pentium 3 and AMD K6 routinely came
with ISA slots. Newer computers only have ISA if
you use special mainboards, for example industry
and PLC oriented ones. Similar for laptops and of
course for netbooks. Which by the way run FreeDOS
okay: It does not care if the disk is flash and
the display is LED... However, sound and network
will be problematic on a netbook for DOS, wireless
network being the worst as far as DOS drivers are
concerned. A potentially interesting URL about the
driver issue:

www.georgpotthast.de/computer/cindex.htm - has some
older USB driver, AC97 sound driver and the Sioux
web server which also has a number of third party
network drivers linked from the page.

By the way, I agree that recent Ubuntu versions
have a bad reputation about sound. I think this
started between half a year and two years ago...

However, this is not because it is Linux. Instead
it is because Ubuntu designers made a bad choice
in making things based on a weak pulseaudio driver
on top of the more stable ALSA driver. So you can
delete the extra layer in theory - in practice, it
takes extra effort to get back simultaneous output
of multiple sounds with DMIX while you got it for
free with pulseaudio.

Best, Eric



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