I have an old W95 era Dell Laptop that I still find useful. I managed to 
install Linux Etch in it by installing w/o Xwindows, then adding that later so 
I could control what all that was installed. I use either Ratpoison or Fluxbox 
for my windows manager.

I have Freedos installed two ways on the Laptop. I can run it in dosemu, or I 
have the option to boot to it directly for any apps that won't run in dosemu. 
Booting directly to Freedos lets me be up and running very quickly, and I can 
get to the Freedos directory later from Linux, so I have access to work from 
either platform.

If I only knew how to get networking to work with Freedos via my pcmcia network 
wirless card, I'd likely boot to Freedos more often than to Linux. But for now, 
I only know how to get the wireless working through Linux.

I'm not a gamer, so I don't really have need for any version of Windows. I do 
use a USB Quickcam Express webcam for astrophotography, and for a time the only 
package I knew that drove the webcam was the Windows software it came with. Now 
I can use Linux and a program called camstream.  

Even better would be some dos compatible webcam program, but I must learn to be 
happy with the nice things Freedos does supply, making an old laptop still a 
valuable asset.

--- On Sun, 6/21/09, Eric Auer <e.a...@jpberlin.de> wrote:

> From: Eric Auer <e.a...@jpberlin.de>
> Subject: Re: [Freedos-user] "Peace and Quiet"!
> To: freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net
> Date: Sunday, June 21, 2009, 9:32 AM
> 
> Hi!
> 
> > needed to support some.  If Dos based Windows is
> > used, Freedos is possibly being run on a computer
> > that has 128+ megs of RAM.  There are a LOT of
> > old computers that have this much RAM.
> 
> And several operating systems that can run there ;-)
> 
> > Freedos can ask, "Are you on a Pentium, 486, 386,
> 286,
> > or 8088," at install time.  Based off of that
> info...
> 
> You typically install from CD today, so you can assume
> a 386 or better, often Pentium or better CPU. Many apps
> run on 8086, but to have decent memory management, you
> typically want HIMEMX and a 386. Several drivers also
> require that. There are also floppy distros for 8086.
> I would not put too much extra 8086 fiddling inside a
> CD distro installer if you ask me. Almost no apps need
> a more modern CPU than 386, or would gain from a FPU.
> Well, probably Arachne would... I also think FreeBASIC
> had issues with 486sx and older CPU which lack a FPU.
> 
> > is possible to decide whether or not certain programs
> > like Firefox for example make any sense.  I
> seriously 
> > doubt that anyone wants to run Arachne on anything
> less 
> > than a 486 with at least 2 megs of RAM for example.
> 
> On any PC which is too old to run NT or Linux, you
> probably want Dillo and not Firefox anyway... ;-)
> 
> Interestingly, Firefox depends mostly on GTK, Python
> and Cairo. Python 2.4 already exists for DOS DJGPP.
> Cairo has backends for GTK and Win32, but Nokia did
> help with some QPainter backend for QT. It makes me
> wonder how hard writing a VESA framebuffer backend
> for DOS might be. On the other hand, I really wonder
> how far HX is from running older Firefox for Win32.
> 
> Note that while DOS runs on modern hardware, it
> does not necessarily make use of it. There is
> no surround sound, multi-core, more-than-4-GB-
> of-RAM or similar support, but it does not hurt
> to have that hardware while running DOS either.
> 
> > of Linux that installs to a FAT directory and
> > exits to Freedos when you are done would be fine
> 
> On the other hand, switching THAT way would not
> be much faster than rebooting to DOS either ;-)
> 
> > In short, the state of Freedos's Arachne poses a
> > security problem for anyone who needs to make sure
> > that a graphical web browser has a local filter
> 
> You cannot install censorship in any DOS browser
> because in DOS, every user always is the admin.
> 
> > Sure you might filter at the router to the net
> 
> That would be morer secure indeed.
> 
> Eric
> 
> 
> 
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