On Sat, Feb 8, 2014 at 2:57 PM, Aryeh Friedman <aryeh.fried...@gmail.com>wrote:
> > > > On Sat, Feb 8, 2014 at 3:54 PM, Adam Vande More <amvandem...@gmail.com>wrote: > >> >> On Sat, Feb 8, 2014 at 2:14 PM, Aryeh Friedman >> <aryeh.fried...@gmail.com>wrote: >> >>> >>> It sounds almost identical to the qcow2 security issue being discussed >>> on qemu-de...@qemu.org recently. This might be a *HUGE* win for bhyve >>> then in considering that it's default format is raw (should ahci-hdd be the >>> default?). devel/qemu (not sure about -dev) uses qcow2 as a default and >>> when playing with it on other OS's I found that it seemed to default to >>> that also. It is my understand that most of the open source cloud >>> platforms use qcow2 as their default also (I remember this from an attempt >>> to install openstack grizzly last summer... I have not checked havana >>> though... can any of the freebsd-openstack confirm this?). >>> >> >> I don't consider it a huge win because the possibility of using an >> insecure device precludes it. Someone high on the tree bhyve needs to >> confirm or deny this otherwise it is unsafe to recommend bhyve >> or petitecloud. No offense intended, I really hope it succeeds and will >> likely use it if it does. I cannot use anything which leaves the host >> open. I am also unclear on how bhyve bypasses GEOM which *should* prevent >> any of the symptoms discussed. >> > > The point was that raw has no issue and this is the default for both bhyve > and petitecloud (to avoid certain list politics I didn't mention it by name > before). Sparse is the issue and thus qemu, openstack and cloudstack (as > well as likely vbox) are a problem. > Yes but bhyve *supports* other backing devices than raw correct? Then this really bad. I don't want a politics game either, just saying you won't get adoption until security is clear. I have no problem with you mentioning petitecloud. Indeed I think you should but others may disagree. In your opinion are ZVOL's a good option? -- Adam _______________________________________________ freebsd-virtualization@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-virtualization To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-virtualization-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
