JoaoBR <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Wednesday 04 April 2007 00:05, you wrote: > > Console is not intended for everyday use! You should login > > to your FreeBSD box with ssh-client of your choise and from > > the OS of your choise (preferably from graphic mode). > > please stay on topic > the question is not what one should or not > but to hook into your talk, if there is a console it can be used as wanted
He is perfectly on topic. Normally you shouldn't have to use syscons at all. On desktop machines, you install X and run it at your favourite resolution. Server machines usually run headless anyway, and you connect to them via ssh or via a serial terminal server. Having to go to a server and work at the syscons console would be an exception (e.g. in case of emergency, when you're not even able to get the box up in single-user mode on the serial console). Of course there are exceptions to those rules. But that's what they are: exceptions. If you need to work on a server regularly at its physical display, it's probably a good idea to install X, as if it was a desktop machine. In fact, if you do work there regularly, then it acts partially as a desktop machine or workstation, so it deserves to run X. If installed and configured properly, the overhead of starting and running the X server is low. Having said that, FreeBSD's syscons _does_ support higher resolutions if you really want to have them (see the pixel mode support and the VESA options in the vindcontrol(8) manpage). If that's still not enough, well, then you have to write code yourself and submit it. The fact that nobody has done that so far indicates that not too many people are in need for more than what's already there. > > 1024x768 is more than enough for 120x50 virtual terminals. > > may be for you, for me and lot of other users it is definitly not How did you get the number of "lot of other users"? >From the discussion so far it rather seems to be a small minority. > > p.s. Or you just trolling? RH is rather professional, but definitely > > not because of graphics in console... :-\ > > don't try to be smart with me Admittedly your style of writing looks a lot like trolling. (But I assume anyway that you're not intentionally trolling, otherwise I wouldn't reply at all and instead add you to my killfile.) > nobody said that RH is professional because of it's graphics in console > I said that for example RH looks professional with the graphic boot they > offer I rather agree with Peter Jeremy here. FreeBSD's boot looks more professional than a colorful but less informative graphical boot like the one on RH or SuSE (or even Windows). Of course, that matters only if you're a professional yourself. If you're not, then I certainly believe that you prefer the graphical boot. FWIW, most of the time machines boot without _anyone_ watching anyway. If you need to see the boot messages, you ssh into the box and type "dmesg -a" or look at the file /var/run/dmesg.boot (and /var/log/console.log which can be enabled via /etc/syslog.conf). Best regards Oliver PS: Please respect the Reply-To header. I do read the list and do not want to get additional copies of mails. -- Oliver Fromme, secnetix GmbH & Co. KG, Marktplatz 29, 85567 Grafing b. M. Handelsregister: Registergericht Muenchen, HRA 74606, Geschäftsfuehrung: secnetix Verwaltungsgesellsch. mbH, Handelsregister: Registergericht Mün- chen, HRB 125758, Geschäftsführer: Maik Bachmann, Olaf Erb, Ralf Gebhart FreeBSD-Dienstleistungen, -Produkte und mehr: http://www.secnetix.de/bsd (On the statement print "42 monkeys" + "1 snake":) By the way, both perl and Python get this wrong. Perl gives 43 and Python gives "42 monkeys1 snake", when the answer is clearly "41 monkeys and 1 fat snake". -- Jim Fulton _______________________________________________ freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
