On Fri, 15 Sep 2006, Hans Lambermont wrote:

Julian H. Stacey wrote:

Stable is a misnomer that harms FreeBSD somewhat.

I agree.

A promoter of FreeBSD I know has long encouraged people to upgrade
from release to stable. Some don't & won't realise Stable is Not
necessarily Stable, & may get burnt.  Much of the world speaks English
only as a 2nd language.  They won't benefit from the double trouble of
foreign + weird BSD geek speak:  "Stable isn't Stable ?  Yes or No !"
"It's stable, but it's OK to crash ?  - I'll go Linux !"

Imagine a boat labelled Stable: It sinks. The designers claim: "Tough!
We left the Application Interface  (routes to bars & toilets) stable,
but changed other stuff.   Hey ! Stable never meant Stable !

It'd be some work to eradicate the misnomer, but the name's perhaps
less entrenched than one might guess, eg:
        ftp ftp.freebsd.org
        cd /pub/FreeBSD
        dir
        lrwxr-xr-x   1 ftpuser  ftpusers        19 Mar 24 14:58 FreeBSD-stable 
-> branches/4.0-stable
        cd  FreeBSD-stable
        550 No such directory.

Why not rename 'stable' into 'stable-api' ?

Or rename it what it is:

6.x-BETA

Where x == the next -RELEASE ...

But, I'm just curious here ... for all of the talk going around about this whole issue, how many ppl have truly ever been bitten by an unstable -STABLE? And for those that have, how long did it take to get help from a developer to get it fixed?

In the case that started this thread, it seems to be that the developer fixed his mistake fairly quickly, which is what one would expect ... it shouldn't be so much that he *broke* -STABLE (shit happens, do you want your money back?), but it should be 'was he around to reverse his mistake in a reasonable amount of time?' ... ?


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