Oliver Fromme wrote:
It's not a bug. It's perfectly POSIX-compatible.
I think this behavior is "undefined" in POSIX, as I found in some documents. This is a difference.
To convert lower case to upper case, use the command "tr '[:lower:]' '[:upper:]'" (or enumerate all letters explicitely, like "tr abcdef ABCDEF"). Skripts that use things like "tr a-z A-Z" are broken and need to be fixed.
It's not only upper-lowercase conversion that is weird. Try "echo wxyz | tr w-z a-d". Ranges are broken generally in ISO-locales, in my opinion.
By the way: Do not set LANG or LC_ALL, expecially for the root user, and especially when compiling things.
One thing I like about FreeBSD is that I have my German environment. But you are right. The only locale that is expected to work correctly is "C".
Not only will tr behave in unexpected ways when used like above, but also other things might break. For example, German month names appear in "ls -l", which will break scripts that try to parse them.
Don't tell me about localization problems. I've seen lots of stupid things. The latest one was a localized "Date:" header produced by a commercial application.
Some tools use decimal commas instead of decimal points, which can lead to further confusion, etc. Yes, scripts which try to do that are broken, but they do exist.
Yes. You are right. How many times did you use tr(1) to convert your texts to upper/lower case? Do you expect that it works correctly? I would prefer to use it like: "tr a-zäöü A-ZÄÖÜ", _if_ I ever need to do it.
If you only need support for German umlauts, then only set LC_CTYPE. That shouldn't break anything.
I appreciate really really really that FreeBSD supports German locales. Let's stop arguing. I just wanted to ask about the behavior. Now I know that something might by fishy with tr(1) and I understand how to avoid this problem. That's all I need to know. For people who are interested in a simple workaround. Don't use de_DE.ISO8859-1(5). Instead use de_DE.UTF-8. tr(1)'s ranges work like expected there. Martin _______________________________________________ freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"