JK> All of your problems can be traced back to old hardware or inexperience
with the latest thinking in BSD land. Because you have not upgraded
your 2.x system, you are essentially stuck. Either get newer hardware
to work with or go through the upgrade based on your subscription disks.
While that's true in the particular it's still useless advice, and what
you're missing is his intent: ie he *shouldn't* be stuck and forced to build
a fresh system, and that we should do something to ensure that doesn't
happen again.
JK> The tracking of stable is not for everyone. Noone *needs* to track
stable.
JK> What we need is an apt-get-like
upgrade path for security fixes that solves the problem of people
tracking one version of stable or another. Remove the necessity of
recompiling from source and we remove almost all reasons for people to
complain about the stableness of stable just because they ran into a
minor problem of timing WRT cvsup and updates to the source tree.
That's what -stable is SUPPOSED to be, incremental stable bugfixes and
functionality updates from the most recent release. Also, there are many
advantages to building from source rather than running genericly compiled
i386 binaries. I personally love letting gcc be as agressive about
optimising to my architecture as possible. On top of that is the standard
kernal tuning argument and advantages.
I also disagree with your comments re make and the difficulty of rebuilding
a system. I am completely new to the unix developement world and make. I'm
completely new to freebsd. I was able to rebuild my system without incident
following 5 lines of instructions from someone on this list. Obviously this
*isn't* rocket science, and aside from eyeballing things in mergemaster, we
shouldn't sit back on our haunches and perpetuate the idea that building
from -stable is something only for the freebsd cognizati elite.
We are not talking about what *is*, we are exploring what we feel things
*should* be.
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