>>>>> "DW" == Doug White <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: DW> This is what happens when the getty on console and xdm start up DW> simultaneously. The keyboard goes into limbo-mode. That explains it... wow. What a fun timing issue. Curious how adding snmpd to startup triggers it every time! DW> The solution is to get xdm to wait 5-10 seconds for the getty to launch DW> before starting itself. This can be done with some nifty shell Yes; this is what I'm doing now: (sleep 30; kdm) & but I think I can cut the sleep time a bit ;-) Thanks for the tip and confirmation. Perhaps I can just start kdm from init (/etc/ttys) and it will work out the timing itself ... I'll try that later. To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message