> On 18 Dec 2019, at 17:58, Richard P Mackerras <mack63rich...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> What software version is the NetApp using?
the very latest :-), but will try and find out later.

> Is the exported volume big?
about 500G, but many files
as far as I know, only accessed by one host running the web app - moodle.

> Is the vserver configured for 64bit identifiers
what the issue here?

> ?
> 
> If you enable NFS V4.0 or 4.1 other NFS clients using defaults might mount 
> NFSv4.x unexpectedly after a reboot so you need to watch that. 
> 
> Cheers 
> 
> Richard 
> (NetApp admin)
> 
> On Wed, 18 Dec 2019 at 15:46, Daniel Braniss <da...@cs.huji.ac.il 
> <mailto:da...@cs.huji.ac.il>> wrote:
> 
> 
> > On 18 Dec 2019, at 16:55, Rick Macklem <rmack...@uoguelph.ca 
> > <mailto:rmack...@uoguelph.ca>> wrote:
> > 
> > Daniel Braniss wrote:
> > 
> >> Hi,
> >> The server with the problems is running FreeBSD 11.1 stable, it was 
> >> working fine for >several months,
> >> but after a software upgrade of our NetAPP server it’s reporting many 
> >> lockd errors >and becomes catatonic,
> >> ...
> >> Dec 18 13:11:02 moo-09 kernel: nfs server fr-06:/web/www: lockd not 
> >> responding
> >> Dec 18 13:11:45 moo-09 last message repeated 7 times
> >> Dec 18 13:12:55 moo-09 last message repeated 8 times
> >> Dec 18 13:13:10 moo-09 kernel: nfs server fr-06:/web/www: lockd is alive 
> >> again
> >> Dec 18 13:13:10 moo-09 last message repeated 8 times
> >> Dec 18 13:13:29 moo-09 kernel: sonewconn: pcb 0xfffff8004cc051d0: Listen 
> >> queue >overflow: 194 already in queue awaiting acceptance (1 occurrences)
> >> Dec 18 13:14:29 moo-09 kernel: sonewconn: pcb 0xfffff8004cc051d0: Listen 
> >> queue >overflow: 193 already in queue awaiting acceptance (3957 
> >> occurrences)
> >> Dec 18 13:15:29 moo-09 kernel: sonewconn: pcb 0xfffff8004cc051d0: Listen 
> >> queue >overflow: 193 already in queue awaiting acceptance …
> > Seems like their software upgrade didn't improve handling of NLM RPCs?
> > Appears to be handling RPCs slowly and/or intermittently. Note that no one
> > tests it with IPv6, so at least make sure you are still using IPv4 for the 
> > mounts and
> > try and make sure IP broadcast works between client and Netapp. I think the 
> > NLM
> > and NSM (rpc.statd) still use IP broadcast sometimes.
> > 
> we are ipv4 - we have our own class c :-)
> > Maybe the network guys can suggest more w.r.t. why, but as I've stated 
> > before,
> > the NLM is a fundamentally broken protocol which was never published by Sun,
> > so I suggest you avoid using it if at all possible.
> well, at the moment the ball is on NetAPP court, and switching to NFSv4 at 
> the moment is out of the question, it’s
> a production server used by several thousand students.
> 
> > 
> > - If the locks don't need to be seen by other clients, you can just use the 
> > "nolockd"
> >   mount option.
> > or
> > - If locks need to be seen by other clients, try NFSv4 mounts. Netapp filers
> >   should support NFSv4.1, which is a much better protocol that NFSv4.0.
> > 
> > Good luck with it, rick
> thanks
>         danny
> 
> > …
> > any ideas?
> > 
> > thanks,
> >        danny
> > 
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