> On Dec 6, 2018, at 4:39 PM, John Baldwin <j...@freebsd.org> wrote:
> 
> On 12/6/18 3:24 PM, John Nielsen wrote:
>>> On Dec 6, 2018, at 4:04 PM, Xin LI <delp...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> On Thu, Dec 6, 2018 at 11:37 AM John Nielsen <li...@jnielsen.net> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> I have upgraded two physical machines from 11-STABLE to 12-STABLE recently 
>>>> (one is 12.0-PRERELEASE r341380 and the other is 12.0-PRERELEASE r341391). 
>>>> I noticed today that neither machine seems to be utilizing /dev/crypto. 
>>>> Typically I see at least ssh/sshd have the device open plus some programs 
>>>> from ports. But 'fuser' doesn't list any processes on either machine:
>>>> 
>>>> # fuser /dev/crypto
>>>> /dev/crypto:
>>>> 
>>>> Both machines are running custom kernels that include "device crypto" and 
>>>> "device cryptodev". One of them additionally has "device aesni".
>>>> 
>>>> Is anyone else seeing this? Any idea what would cause it?
>>> 
>>> Your average OpenSSL applications should not use /dev/crypto, if your
>>> goal is to utilize AES-NI (which does not require /dev/crypto).  On
>>> capable systems, AES-NI would be used automatically (and it's faster
>>> this way).
>> 
>> Thanks for the response. Is there a way to verify that AES-NI is being used 
>> for e.g. ssh? I'm also curious why/when/how the change to not use (or 
>> support?) /dev/crypto from base openssl was made.
> 
> I suspect it was something we just didn't test in the flurry of other work
> during the OpenSSL upgrade.

I did wonder about that. :)

> However, it is much faster to use the AES-NI
> instructions in userland than to use a system call that copies the data
> into a kernel buffer, uses the sames AES-NI instructions, then copies the
> data back out again along with the overhead of a pair of user <--> kernel
> transitions.  If you have an actual crypto offload device (as in a PCI-e
> card or something), then you might be interested in /dev/crypto (and we
> should fix that eventually), but AES-NI is just faster software crypto and
> is best done directly in userland.

That makes sense and explains some other comments I was just reading. Is 
aesni(4) even required if all you want is userland acceleration?

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