I'll demur just a bit on your points. On Mon, Aug 29, 2016 at 08:51:02PM -0700, K. Macy wrote: > "we need a compiler to build the system" (a prebuilt package does that > just fine),
Well, yes, for a tier-1 machine; and one that is connected to the network. > I can't speak for the whole universe of users, but I think it's safe > to say that most users are not power users who individually configure > ports tailored to their needs. We've certainly tried to provide a migration path away from that, but I don't think anyone has statistics about how far along we are. IMHO we can't assume it's 100%, or maybe even 80%. > I think my experiences on Ubuntu [...] are illustrative. A number of years ago Ubuntu and FreeBSD had barely overlapping audiences: end-users and developers. With all the improvements to pkg and tier-1 packages I hope that is changing -- the goal of expanding the reach is why I supported all the changes I saw being made. But for me an attraction has always been "you can build it out of the box", even if I rarely do it (e.g. I am not working in the kernel/driver area), mcl _______________________________________________ freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-stable-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"