On 02.06.12 12:42, Erich Dollansky wrote:
On 02 June 2012 AM 9:14:28 Chris Rees wrote:
On Jun 2, 2012 4:04 AM, "Erich Dollansky"<er...@alogreentechnologies.com>
wrote:
But I have to mention one disadvantage. The ports are in no way linked to
the releases. This leads to situations in which a small change in a basic
library will result in a complete update of the installed ports. I
expressed this already many time here. It would be of advantage if the
ports tree would also have tags like the base system itself.
Unfortunately this is a massive amount of extra work - we only just keep up
with updates as it is.
I do not think so. At least not for the first step as I see it. Just make
snapshots of the ports tree when the release comes out. These snapshots are
with the releases anyway.
What I did was very simple. I got the ports tree that comes with the release
and installed the system back to the release status. Ok, it was some work for
me - maybe not for others - to find this tree.
A simple link could help here.
I do not know if this is just an opinion which is too optimistic.
But this functionality is already here. As I mentioned earlier, FreeBSD
is not an end-user product, but rather a software platform and a kit
that you can use to assemble pretty much what you can imagine.
Here is one example, how to handle the 'port problem'. The example is
with BSDRP: http://bsdrp.net/
This is an nanoBSD based system, that you can build yourself. For
example, the 31 May 2012 svn code sets this environment variable
PORTS_DATE="date=2012.05.31.00.00.00"
to pull the ports tree with that particular date (when it was tested to
build sucessfuly)
It then proceeds to download it's own copy of /usr/src and /usr/ports
and uses these to build the complete installation. More or less,
controlled environment.
The /usr/src of -stable/-current and /usr/ports are in fact moving
target. If you are uncomfortable with that, just sync to some date and
you will have that date's snapshot and therefore known state. Most
people who are bitten by the 'sudden change in ports' are just ignoring
this option.
You don't have to use the (arguable old) 'release' ports tree. Ports get
fixed/adapted for the new version usually months after release.
Daniel
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