There doesn't seem to be any CTM update being E-mailed or on the ftp sites. I searched the mailing list, but can't find the message for one of the times before with the person to contact. Jim Specifically cvs-cur is the one I noticed is not being sent. Jim -- Unix is like a wigwam -- no Gates, no Windows, and an Apache inside. To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message