On Fri, Sep 14, 2012 at 9:15 PM, Mark Murray <ma...@freebsd.org> wrote:
> Ben Laurie writes:
>> What I am trying to do is extract whatever entropy there is in the
>> input. You appear to be saying that there's no point adding extra
>> entropy because it is estimated at zero. This makes no sense to me.
>
> What I am trying to say is that it doesn't matter if by some coincidence
> certain harvested file fragments contain zero. Furthermore, it doesn't
> matter if you feed /dev/random a whole bunch of zeros (except in the
> case where that swamps out other harvested events, and it is that
> problem we are trying to solve, amonmgst others).

I agree with this.

> My proposed solution is intended so address, if not solve that problem,
> by preventing file writes from filling up the harvest queue. Yarrow
> already has pretty good data hashing; there is no point in duplicating
> that.

Fine: then when the queue fills, run the Yarrow algorithm.

If not, then whatever you run instead must also be sound. XOR isn't.

> Note that I have already agreed that external preconditioning of the
> data is a good idea; I like the idea of compression and some external
> hashing (but not the speed of these duting boot).

I don't, because you can't rely on it. That is, I'm not against it,
but we can't rely on it.

> Others may work, but
> ultimately I trust Yarrow more.
>
> M
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