Anthony Atkielski wrote:
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Still another reason why I prefer FreeBSD is that it places far less emphasis on the desktop. Linux has been moving more and more towards a desktop because that's where the hype and money is perceived to be.
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Hello Anthony and FreeBSD fans

I use Debian as my main system and I do not agree with you. I do not think that Linux distributions I use are doing more enphasis on the desktop. At least on Debian or Gentoo (the distros I know) you always have the choice (the whole OS) to install or not the X-window system. They also have a "base system" concept. If you need a server you only install the software you need for the server. If you want a desktop full of bells ans whistles, you install the X-window System, and whatever window manager you like. I think it is the same for FreeBSD. I have seen that the great ports collection contains the same software that I have on Debian.


Unfortunately, a kernel alone doesn't make an operating system.  So
people began adding programs to the kernel in order to provide something
complete enough to actually run as an OS.  Different organizations added
a different mix of programs, and each mix today is called a
"distribution."  No two distributions are alike.  The set of programs
you get in your Linux OS from Red Hat isn't the same as the set of
programs you get in your OS from Debian, and so on.

The Linux situation is pretty unusual.  Most operating systems,
including FreeBSD, are supplied as complete operating systems from the
start, including not only a kernel but also a comprehensive, coherent,
and consistent set of system programs to run under that kernel.  You
don't need a "distribution"; the OS already contains everything you need
to run the system.  In my view, this greatly improves reliability,
stability, and coherent of the OS, as there is only one version of the
OS for each release, and it is complete in itself.


I asume that the Debian guys are expertise enough to put that "mix" in a comprehensive, coherent,and consistent set of system programs to run under Linux kernel, as you say. My system also never hangs and works very well.

So I agree with Nick, I think Linux and FreeBSD are two great OSes, and that each one has its pros and cons. Choosing one or the other, is a matter of taste.

I although have observed that in this list, some of you hate Linux.
I have never seen insults to FreeBSD in the Debian e-mail lists. They some times talk about some experiences about FreeBSD, but never say things like " such crap FreeBSD ......" as I have heard here many times.
Be in peace my friends.


Anyway, I like both very much, I am following this e-mail list and playing with my FreeBSD install in another slice to get confortable and perhaps, one day, I will change. Also I try to help the FreeBSD proyect submitting some bug reports as I found them. I am not an expert but I enjoy helping others.


PS: I am a christian and I DO NOT see any reasons to hate the beastie. I love the beastie, I find it nice, pleasant and kind. I like it very much. Do not change it please! ;-)


Sorry for my bad english.
Enjoy the Free OSes.

Ramiro.












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