> > You will actually need "volume magic" instead of partition magic I believe. > Unless the product has changed partition magic will not work with the server > OS's from Microsoft.
I used it with Win 2000 and XP-pro, but not win 2003. I had no problems with those two. But, I had to make the PM boot floppies as it tells in the PM instructions. I made those under Win 2K and they worked fine for both and to look at another machine delievered with no OS on it. I haven't heard of "Vo.ume Magic". ////jerry > > Michael Clark > Nemschoff Chairs Inc > mclark at nemschoff dot com > CompTIA A+, Network+, Server+, MCP > Voice: (920) 457 7726 x294 > Fax: (920) 453 6594 > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Bawan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Sent: Friday, July 16, 2004 5:17 PM > > To: 'Jerry McAllister' > > Cc: 'Steve Bertrand'; [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Subject: RE: problem while installing FreeBSD > > > > > > I deleted the partition and made 1.5Gb of DOS partition. I > > made two floppy > > disks as per the instruction. When installing, it read first > > floppy and ask > > for second and After that I get kernel configuration menu, I > > treid "skip > > kernel" other "configure kernel in visual mode". After "save" > > option, it > > says rebooting...and after reboot, I don't get Sysconfig > > menu. When I remove > > disk, it boots to dos and when I reboot without removing > > disk, it says > > > > >>FreeBSD/i386 BOOT > > Default:0:fd(0,a)/kernel > > Boot: > > > > I don't what to do after this. I am windows guy and this is > > my first FreeBSD > > installation. > > Its kind of frustration for me now. Please help. Do I have to > > format the dos > > partition without loading OS on it or what. > > Thanks. > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Jerry McAllister [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Sent: Thursday, July 15, 2004 1:38 PM > > To: Bawan > > Cc: 'Steve Bertrand'; [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Subject: Re: problem while installing FreeBSD > > > > > > > > It's the same problem when I remove CD. Does it make sense: I am > > installing > > > on the machine which already have Windows 2003 server, and > > file system > > NTFS. > > > I thought FreeBSD may take care of this file system or it > > may allow me to > > do > > > partition while installing. Thanks. > > > > Oh. Did you use something to resize the disk slices before > > you started > > the install? FreeBSD will only install [correctly] into empty space > > on the disk or wipe out everything and install over the top of the > > whole thing. It will not resize the NTFS slice for you. > > > > If you want to install FreeBSD on the machine as a dual-boot system > > and keep the preinstalled Win2k stuff running, then you need to > > shrink the NTFS down to make room for FreeBSD. > > > > A disk can have up to 4 primary slices (which MS calls > > 'partitions', by > > the way) that are numbered 1..4. Generally if you buy a machine and > > it has something MS preinstalled on it, that MS stuff takes > > all of the > > disk and makes it one slice, leaving 3 logically to work with, but no > > room for them. > > > > If the system was from some vendor like Dell, they might have > > also put a > > slice with their own diagnostics on the machine, thus using > > two slices > > and leaving only 2 slices that can be created. The diagnostic slice > > usually is very small and MS takes the rest of the disk. > > > > Now, if you want to add FreeBSD and still keep the MS (and > > possibly the > > diagnostic) slice[s] you need to shrink the MS slice to make room to > > create another slice, using one of the remaining slice numbers. (The > > diagnostic slice would be to small to bother with and should just be > > left alone) > > > > If you need to shrink the NTFS slice, then you need something like > > Partition Magic which is put out by Power Quest to do that before > > you start with the FreeBSD installation. If it was a FAT or FAT32 > > slice, there are some free utilities that can be used, but the last > > I knew, they would not safely handle NTFS. Partition Magic seems > > to be the most readily available one that can handle shrinking NTFS. > > It is not free, but is pretty cheap. You can usually find it at > > such places as Best Buy and Circuit City in the USA and by some > > online stores. The price was about $69 US. > > > > When you get it, > > - take the CD and make the two floppies according to > > the instructions. Forget trying to use it by installing it. > > - Then boot from the floppies. > > - Look around until you are familiar and clear what you already > > have on disk. > > - Shrink the NTFS slice from the top - eg don't try to make room > > before it, make it at the end of the NTFS slice. > > - Have Partition Magic complete its pending operations - just quit > > and say yes to its questions about completing them. > > - Boot up again from the floppies. > > - Create a new primary slice out of the new empty space and make > > it an unspecified (unknown) type (or maybe FAT32 might also be OK). > > but don't make it any kind of extended slice or other MS sort of > > thing. > > - Again make it complete pending operations. > > - At this time you should be able to install FreeBSD in the newly > > created slice. When you do, make sure that is what you select > > and not the 'use the whole disk' option. It will be slice 2 if > > there is only MS already on the disk and slice 3 if there is both > > a diagnostic slice and an MS slice. If you also have Linux or > > something else there as well, it might be slice 4. If there are > > already 4 slices being used on the disk, you can't do it without > > getting rid of something first. > > - During the part in the FreeBSD install where you choose the slice > > and create it, first you should might want to tell it to delete > > the new slice and then create it again - it will use only > > the empty > > space. You shouldn't have to do this I don't think, but I have > > had trouble in the past if I just tried to accept the slice as it > > was created by Partition Magic without having FreeBSD do it too. > > Then, make sure you tell it to make the slice bootable by selecting > > that slice and choosing that option. > > > > After all this, then you go on to make UNIX partitions within that > > slice with the disklabel editor - using the one built in to the > > sysinstall, preferably. > > > > NOTE, that both MS and Partion Magic refer to the slices as > > partitions. > > Just remember that Partition Magic works on slices in FreeBSD > > parlance. > > In FreeBSD, partitions are subdivisions of slices. That can get a > > little confusing. > > > > Unfortunately in FreeBSD (at least in 4.xx) there are still a > > few places > > where the word partition is used when it means slice too. Most of the > > documentation, and especially the man pages have been cleaned > > up in 5.xx > > but I noticed a place or two in the messages used during the > > disk building > > that still use the terms incorrectly. > > > > Now, all this long harrangue may be moot if you do not want > > to keep the > > MS system available on the disk as a dual boot. In that case, you > > just choose 'Use the whole disk for one big FreeBSD slice' option and > > let it wipe out everything that is already there. Or, use Partition > > Magic to delete the MS slice, but still keep the diagnostic slice if > > there is one and you want to keep it. > > > > Or, if you have already managed to wipe out the MS stuff (not > > a bad idea > > actually) but you didn't really mean to, you need to install it back > > on the disk before doing the Partition Magic stuff and then > > the FreeBSD > > stuff. > > > > Maybe this will help. > > > > ////jerry > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: Steve Bertrand [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > Sent: Thursday, July 15, 2004 11:24 AM > > > To: Bawan > > > Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > Subject: RE: problem while installing FreeBSD > > > > > > > > > > > I tried with options Start kernel configuration and Skip Kernel > > > > Configuration and have same result. Keyboard is not > > getting "off" even I > > > > do > > > > cold boot, but system start and same thing repeats. > > > > > > > > > > It sounds like you still have the CD in the drive...Did you > > follow the > > > instruction to "Remove any removable media from the > > drive.." before you > > > rebooted the machine? > > > > > > Remove the CD (if it is in the CD drive) and boot from the hard disk > > > instead. > > > > > > Cheers, > > > > > > Steve > > > > > > > My computer description is: > > > > > > > > API Multiprocessor PC > > > > NVDIA RIVA TNT2 Model display card > > > > NIC 3COM (3c905c-TX) > > > > Processors: > > > > AMD Athlon (tm) MP 1900+ > > > > AMD Athlon (tm) MP 1900+ > > > > > > > > SCSI and RAID Controller: > > > > SX6000(tm) IDE RAID Controller > > > > > > > > Please let me know if you need anymore hardware information. > > > > Note: I am installing from CD, do you think I have to try > > installing > > from > > > > FTP. > > > > Thanks. > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > From: Steve Bertrand [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > Sent: Thursday, July 15, 2004 10:47 AM > > > > To: Bawan > > > > Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > Subject: RE: problem while installing FreeBSD > > > > > > > >> I just started installing it. There is no any extra peripheral > > connected > > > >> to > > > >> it. I think I am on first step, I am suppose to get > > Sysinstall menu > > > >> after > > > >> reboot, but it gets stuck after saying rebooting... > > > > > > > > When replying to a post, please ensure you Cc: the list, so that > > everyone > > > > following the thread knows what is happening. It is also > > beneficial to > > > > knew users who 'lurk' but haven't yet posted that may be > > having similar > > > > issues. > > > > > > > > Now, back to the subject... > > > > > > > > If you've already installed FBSD, sysinstall should not > > come back up by > > > > default. The machine should boot, then you should be > > dropped right at > > the > > > > command prompt. > > > > > > > > If I understand correctly, the last message you see is > > 'Rebooting...'? > > If > > > > this is so, what happens after a cold boot? Post the > > messages where it > > > > gets stuck. > > > > > > > > Also, this may be a good time to post your hardware > > (mobo, NIC, and > > > > additional info). > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > > > Steve > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > >> Thanks. > > > >> > > > >> -----Original Message----- > > > >> From: Steve Bertrand [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > >> Sent: Thursday, July 15, 2004 10:07 AM > > > >> To: Bawan > > > >> Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > >> Subject: Re: problem while installing FreeBSD > > > >> > > > >>> I am installing FreeBSD 4.10 from CD. The computer hung up after > > > >>> rebooting > > > >>> and I am not getting Probe result. Computer and > > keyboard seems to be > > > >>> hung > > > >>> up. > > > >> > > > >> Where exactly is it hung? What is the last few lines of > > output that is > > > >> displayed? > > > >> > > > >> Do you have any extra peripherals plugged in (ie. > > scanner, camera, CF > > > >> cards etc)? If so, unplug all unneccisary devices and try to boot > > again. > > > >> > > > >> Steve > > > >> > > > >>> > > > >>> > > > >>> > > > >>> I don't see any conflicting devices on my computer. > > > >>> > > > >>> > > > >>> > > > >>> Can you help me on this? > > > >>> > > > >>> > > > >>> > > > >>> Thanks. > > > >>> > > > >>> bawan > > > >>> > > > >>> > > > >>> > > > >>> _______________________________________________ > > > >>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list > > > >>> http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > > > >>> To unsubscribe, send any mail to > > > >>> "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" > > > >>> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list > > > > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > > > > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > > > > "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" > > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list > > > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > > > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > > "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list > > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > > "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" > > > > > CONFIDENTIALITY NOTE: This electronic transmission, including all > attachments, is directed in confidence solely to the person(s) to whom it is > addressed, or an authorized recipient, and may not otherwise be distributed, > copied or disclosed. 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