On Sat, Apr 17, 2004 at 10:50:29AM +0000, Daniela probably wrote: > On Friday 16 April 2004 21:52, Lucas Holt wrote: > > > Why would one need C++ if it's converted to C anyway? > > > > C++ is useful for programmers that believe in object oriented > > methodologies. Some things are easier to do in C++ as well. It all > > depends on the programmer. > > > > You seem to favor assembly languages. I've found that many people into > > assembly never seem to get OO and therefore languages like C++ and Java > > make no sense to them. Assembly *can be* fast but its not portable. > > C was created to make unix portable. C++ was created to add OO > > features to C. (as was objective c) > > I do program in C++ quite often and it does make sense to me. I know seven > programming languages and which one I use depends on the program, as I find > them all easy. OO languages can be optimized differently than non-OO > languages, and when you translate one language into another, this advantage > gets lost. > > I would rather say, assembly is fast and can be portable, if it's done > properly. Yes, it is an unforgiving language, but I think beginning > programmers need exactly that. >
I don't think that assembly is the best language to learn first. English is:) (I mean, reading the draft standards is a good idea; though they can't be regarded as manuals, they have valuable examples and notes). Learning assembly has the added advantage of knowing (at least basically) what happens when you do a dynamic_cast<>(), for instance. Assembly doesn't have to be portable to be usable this educational way. At least for me, this is necessary to be sure of what I'm doing in C++. This doesn't mean that to understand a C++ program, I have to convert it to assembly:). It just means that, when I face a problem, I can dig into the details and find out what I've done wrong, etc. OO means a high level of abstraction, and if part of the levels are floating in the air with nothing to support them, you sooner or later will face problems --- the problems of your misunderstanding how it works. I don't mean you have to write every program in assembly, but if you understand how it works --- it certainly helps. YMMV. -- DoubleF Legalize free-enterprise murder: why should governments have all the fun?
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