On 2012-10-19 02:48, Shane Ambler wrote:
On 19/10/2012 07:44, dweimer wrote:

First step replace the usr/src within the jail with new source using
 svn, easy enough.  Then start make buildworld... oops, I have a
problem now, the usr/obj/usr stuff is now under
/usr/obj/usr/jails/release91rc2..., However I want it to be under
/usr/jails/release91rc2/usr/obj/usr.

If the jails base dir is /usr/obj/usr/jails/release91rc2 then it can
only access files below that base dir. That is part of the jails security.

If your jail is based at /usr/obj/usr/jails/release91rc2 then the jail
by default will buildworld into /usr/obj of the jail system which
translates to /usr/obj/usr/jails/release91rc2/usr/obj on the base system.

You can adjust the settings within the jail but it will always be
within the release91rc2 dir so you can't use the jail to install into
/usr/jails of the base system.

The base of the Jail, is /usr/jails/release91rc2, however, I did forget to mention that I was running the buildworld and buildkernel from the base system, with the intent to install using the DESTDIR=/usr/jails/release91rc2 command line option


From looking at the usr/src/Makefile It looks like I need to set the
 MAKEOBJDIRPREFIX=/usr/jails/relase91rc2/usr/obj/usr/src/tmp
environment variable, but is that the best solution here? There's
also a /usr/obj/lib32 directory (system is running amd64, I assume
this is for 32 bit libraries), so I would likely need to do something
here as well, that I haven't gotten to yet.

lib32 is part of the final system - you don't need to handle it
separately. See man src.conf if you want to turn off the creation of
32bit libs.

Got it, Fine with leaving it there, just wanted to know if there was a separate option to define where it ended up.

You can set MAKEOBJDIRPREFIX (default /usr/obj ) to define where the
binary files are made.
You can also set DESTDIR (default is / ) for the installworld step to
define where they get installed.

It appears I went to deep on my definition of the MAKOBJDIRPREFIX, made the above path after seeing some output at the start of one of my buildworld attempts, which is what led me to believe there would be a second choice.

When you start a buildworld or buildkernel the compiled binaries are
stored within MAKEOBJDIRPREFIX. When that is complete the installworld
or installkernel steps install the files from MAKEOBJDIRPREFIX into
DESTDIR to create a workable system. That prevents a failed build from
destroying part of your running system.

If you want to experiment with different versions then you can also try-

mkdir /usr/jails
cd /usr/jails
svn co http://svn0.us-west.FreeBSD.org/base/releng/9.0 9.0-src
cd 9.0-src
set MAKEOBJDIRPREFIX = /usr/jails/9.0-obj
set DESTDIR = /usr/jails/9.0-base
make buildworld && make installworld

cd /usr/jails
svn co http://svn0.us-east.FreeBSD.org/base/releng/9.1 9.1-src
cd 9.1-src
set MAKEOBJDIRPREFIX = /usr/jails/9.1-obj
set DESTDIR = /usr/jails/9.1-base
make buildworld && make installworld

Here was the key information I needed, found several examples searching but none stated the MAKEOBJDIRPREFIX=, as you state below they are not needed for the running system, guessing most people clean them up afterwards so they aren't concerned they don't exist in the same boot environment in the end. I prefer to keep them in the same boot environment if possible, just so that if I delete a boot environment I know I got rid of everything that belonged to it and don't end up uselessly eating up extra disk space. I do delete the /usr/obj/usr directory prior to any rebuild, from old documentation I read when I first started doing source upgrades as a method of improving the speed of the buildworld. I am sure those were written for a 32bit system, which is why the lib32 directory wasn't included in those instructions.

I know the /usr/obj/usr directory can be deleted after the
installation of the source, does the same go for the /usr/obj/lib32
directory?  if so

Anything in MAKEOBJDIRPREFIX (/usr/obj) can be deleted after you have
installed it, including lib32 which are libs to allow running 32bit
programs on a 64bit system.

Looks like I am on the right path, now time to give it a try with the new environment variables, thanks for your help Shane.

If all goes well on this step, only things I have left to figured out and test is creating zfs snapshots by hand of volumes outside my boot environment, and mounting those read write within the jailed systems base so that I can fully test my applications against the latest live data without changing the actual data. Don't expect to have any trouble with this one.

And then last of all need to test removing a HD from my Virtual Machine, adding a replacement, and rebuilding the mirror, again don't expect this to be a problem, just need to work my way through them and get the steps down before I am comfortable doing these procedures on a system that I need to run when its completed.

--
Thanks,
   Dean E. Weimer
   http://www.dweimer.net/
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