On Mon, 28 Dec 2009, d...@safeport.com wrote:

I have been trying to get xorg 7.4 first going and then updated. I have some general questions. First using xdm it takes from 3-5 minutes to start. Second, using hal and dbus even starting is an adventure. Once it started in well under a minute but mostly it just locks up. In reading Xorg.0.log and xdm.log, I see no errors. Is my time-to-start out of line?

Yes. For testing, disable xdm and try just "startx". If that's still slow, try "Xorg -retro" (ctrl-alt-backspace to quit, or maybe ctrl-alt-fn to switch back to the console running X and ctrl-c).

I've heard of very slow starting with xdm but never got feedback to determine the problem.

Using hal and dbus was working fine until I attempted updating xorg using portmaster, trying 'portmaster -n -PP xorg'. This gave me a list that seemed reasonable so I tried it for real, getting an error about finding an archive that I did not understand and the man page did not address. So I installed portupgrade and the 'hal dbus' version of xdm stopped working. I view this as coincidence but switching back to not using hal and dbus and using the ati driver (rather than radeon) works.

What video board do you have? What is in your xorg.conf? The ATI driver is just an autoloader; if you have a Radeon, it'll load that anyway.

As it appears that kde4 depends on having xorg updated, I am kind of stuck. Is the time-to-start an indication that I have a basic hardware issue and all my other symptoms derive that that?

Doubtful.

My last question is does kde4 require hal or dbus to be activiated?

Probably not, but I use xfce.

-Warren Block * Rapid City, South Dakota USA
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