On Friday 21 February 2003 12:11 pm, chuck odonnell wrote:
> On Fri, Feb 21, 2003 at 10:31:15AM -0800, Kent Stewart wrote:
> > I also don't user Verizon for an ISP because they don't permit
> > local servers.
>
> i'm guessing you're talking about the inconvenient way some Cable/DSL
> ISPs block incoming connections on common server ports (25, 80)?

Actually, it is a clause for termination on most networks that cover 
homes. When Code Red hit, I was told by my old ISP that I was in 
violation of their TOS. I was seeing x,000 hits a day and when it got 
that high, they noticed. When several of the search engines start 
indexing my system at the same time, the hit count also goes up. The 
old ISP also told me that I could run a casual web server when I signed 
up. Their TOS says you have to have it in writing, which I didn't. When 
the hit count reached some rate, I appeared to have crossed their magic 
barrier separating casual-personal and business oriented.

Verizon locally doesn't use a ppp based setup. My local ISP provides two 
static IPs and up to 20 via dhcp. When my DSL line doesn't work, I call 
Verizon's 888...1234 # and they work with me while I am on the 
telephone, which has been typically 2-4 am. If they can't fix it that 
way, Verizon tells me it will be fixed by 7 pm that day and a repairman 
shows up. 

The people on the East side of the Columbia River have Qwest and in the 
past, they had the reputation of taking days on simple repairs. I don't 
have any idea how they deal with repairs at this point because the 
computer oriented people that I knew have all moved out of the area. 
The only person left doesn't know how to get into his bios. When he 
gets back from 3-weeks in México, we are going to work on that :). I 
think that is similar to not letting one of the kids drive alone until 
they can prove they can change a flat tire.

>
> usually this is only a real annoyance because you can't set up a mail
> server for your incoming SMTP email. if you have access to an outside
> Internet server, and you run postfix on it -- you can route incoming
> mail through the outside server, and using the postfix transport
> table forward the mail to a sendmail or postfix instance running on a
> high port on your internal server. works great!

I use kmail on kde-3. My ISP is Linux based and is running SpamAssasin. 
I can use it and not have to figure out how to make everything run. It 
all depends on the irritation factor. When it reaches some point, I 
will do what you are doing.

>
> ...or like you said, just don't use that ISP :)

That is always a choice. 

It appears I have missed a number of comments on this because I wasn't 
cc'ed.

Kent
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Kent Stewart
Richland, WA

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