On Fri, May 30, 2008 at 09:49:50PM +0100, Frank Shute wrote:
> On Thu, May 29, 2008 at 07:39:02PM -0700, Gary Kline wrote:
> >
Questions on validation....
> >
> > > 4.
> > >
> > > Steal a simple page that validates:
> > >
> > > http://www.shute.org.uk/miscellany.html
> > >
> > > and use it as a template to hack on. Steal the style sheet too.
> > >
> > > Validate your webpage as you go along with the w3c validator.
> >
When I typed in www.thought.org/x.html AFTER having fixed
the <! comment errors -->, there were still 30 faults.
The one that really got me was <TITLE> because that one looked
100$ correct. I deleted the META tags; no difference.
(( x.html == index.php )).
I left the "doctype" on auto and the validator.w3.org couldn't
parse my "-//w3c//dtd html 4.0 transitional//en" markup. The err:
"the Document Type (-//w3c//dtd html 4.0 transitional//en) is not
in the validator's catalog" The index.php and index.html are
identical except for the php entry.
Any guesses why things like this blowup::
<!doctype html public "-//w3c//dtd html 4.0 transitional//en" >
<HTML>
<HEAD>
<TITLE>Thought Unlimited: www.thought.org</TITLE>
</HEAD>
> >
> > >
> > > 5.
> > >
> > > A few tips:
> > >
> > > Use <div>'s for layout, not tables.
> >
> >
> > i cannot // hhaven't made sense of <DIV> since I first saw it.
> > *This* may be where I've confused IE and Konq and it might be the
> > easiest way to create the layout that firefox gives me.
>
> <div> essentially gives you a box which after setting properties like
> font size, background color, margins, position etc. with your
> stylesheet you can place on your page and then fill with graphics,
> text etc.
>
And using the CSS, am I right?? I began using the style sheets
10, 10+ years ago. Given that familiarity, it wouldn't be that
much of a jump to go back to that mode. ( Besides, TABLE's
can be a serious PITA:)
I used the website's tidy tool so I saw what I had to do in order
to transition. I'll need to study the <DIV> stuff. The important
thing is that late this afternoon I learned that this stuff is
rendered even under IE ...
> Have a look at the source and style sheet of my contact page (at the
> bottom of this mail) to see how you can use them quite simply.
>
[[ ... ]]
> >
> > I didn't understand you could hardwire a textsize; maybe I've
> > done it inadvertently ...
>
> Yeah, you can:
>
> font-size: 16px
>
> Use something like (in your style sheet):
>
> font: italic 120% sans-serif;
>
> where the 120% sets the size of the font relative to the browsers
> setting.
>
> Say me default font is set to 20px in my browser, then in the former
> case the font will render at 16px and in the latter case at 22px.
>
> I don't know if it's something you did with your pages but it's
> something you should be aware of.
>
Wel, I set <FONT SIZE="3"> and elsewhere <FONT SIZE="+2">
Probably the same, come to think of it.
> >
> >
> >
> > >
> > > Keep an eye out for pages that look nice and validate. View source &
> > > then steal chunks of xhtml and css.
> > >
>
me thinks it's going to be a busy 2, 3 weeks, :)
gary
>
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