# [EMAIL PROTECTED] / 2003-01-07 09:52:44 +1000:
> On Tue, 2003-01-07 at 00:42, Lowell Gilbert wrote:
> > Daniel Goepp <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> > 
> > > So mx1.freebsd.org itself runs Postfix, but yet, sendmail is still so
> > > embedded in FreeBSD that it's almost imposible to get cleaned out.  When
> > > are they going to make the FreeBSD install configurable enough to not have
> > > to include sendmail, bind, openssl, etc?  I choose to either install these
> > > apps as ports, or not at all.
> > > 
> > > Is there a way to break down the install, and just get a bare bare bare
> > > bones install of just base, crypto and man pages, like the install says
> > > it's going to do?  I can't imagine this would be too hard to do!
> > 
> > Then do it.  If it works, I doubt there will be much trouble getting
> > it accepted into the system.
> 
> um ... what's wrong with doing this in /etc/make.conf?
> 
> NO_BIND = true
> NO_OPENSSL = true
> NO_SENDMAIL = true
> 
> and so on.
> 
> Seems to be exactly what you want to do

    No it's not.

    The issue is more complex: Sendmail + DJB's dnscache
    + nameserver 127.0.0.1 in /etc/resolv.conf + default means of
    starting up the software = broken system:
    
    1) Sendmail gets started (/etc/rc.sendmail)
    2) Sendmail looks up it's name (queries 127.0.0.1:53)
    3) Sendmail gets upset
    4) dnscache gets started (/usr/local/etc/rc.d/000.svscan.sh)
    5) too late

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