From: "Danial Thom" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
--- Ted Mittelstaedt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
>>
>> Unfortunately, jdow, since your using this
setup, the spammer has
>> already successfully delivered the mail to
you. The fact that you
>> delete the spam before reading makes no
difference - the spammer
>> doesen't know that and thinks they have
successfully delivered it.
>
>No they have not. They've managed to get it
onto my machine,
>transiently.
>It never got delivered to ME, the organic unit
here at this email
>address.
I know that and your arguing out of your hat -
simply pulling statements
out of context. You know perfectly well that
the "to you" in the
sentence was to your machine, the paragraph
context told you that.
Unfortunately in the spam game, it only matters
if the spammer
thinks they didn't successfully deliver it to
you. And that only
happens if the machine delivering the spam gets
an error when
trying to deliver it, since the spammer isn't
using legitimate
senders addresses and cannot get feedback any
other way.
I've never been a fan of post-filters for this
reason. For some
kinds of filtering - like content filtering for
example - that
is the only way you can do it. But I think it
the height of
strangeness when SA checks blacklists and such
to assign scores.
If they really cared about spamfiltering, they
would use the
IP blacklists in the way they are intended - to
block access
completely to the spammer, not even let them
connect to the
server at all. The mail that SA is assigning
scores on based on
an IP blacklist shouldn't even be in the SA
filter to begin with.
>> Denying the spam before it's even accepted
into the server is a
>> much better way. Unfortunately, a content
filter means you have to
>
>If you can make fetchmail do that you're
pretty clever, kemo sabe.
>
No, but I can replace the Rube Goldberg
fetchmail arraingement your
using with a real mailserver that is on the
Internet all the time
and can make use of blacklist servers and such.
And yes, I'm just as good at making
smart-alecky comments as you
are. Probably better at it, actually. Do you
want to knock it
off and go back to the technical merits
discussion now? ;-)
YIKES. This is what happens when you put
pimply-faced kids in charge of important things
like mail. The "carpet bomb MECCA in order to
kill a few terrorists" approach to computing. Its
frightening.
Yeah, maybe he'll manage to survive long enough to acquire some wisdom
such as sometimes comes with age. (And without that gained wisdom getting
old must be unbearable.)
{^_-}
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