Additionally, Apple had AU/X running on Macs before even machten.
Natively.
Chad
On Nov 19, 2005, at 11:29 AM, Gilbert Fernandes wrote:
Consider that when MacOS moved to UNIX that all the UNIX software
vendors could now easily port their applications to Macintosh.
Excuse me, sir.
Your discussion is pretty impressive and I have been reading it
with care. Honestly, I am far from having a distant enough picture
of the whole say to comment about what the discussion is about
(and to be honest, I am not even sure I do know exactly what
the point of the discussion is - please forgive me).
But "Unix" has been available for MacOS users for a long time,
far before MacOS X went out and using a Mach kernel.
It has been since 1996, over a Mach kernel.
Years ago, I worked for the crypto military branch of my country. We
used Unix-based programs for some of our work.
I had a Powerbook 190 and I needed Unix over it. After some time
thinking it was not possible, I have found that MachTen did sold a
Unix
for x86 that worked upon a Mach kernel. You installed it on your MacOS
and launched it from there. And you then had Unix running there,
over a
Mach kernel, with X too. You had both at the same time, running
friendly
together on screen and inter-operable.
Vendors did not wait for Apple to let them run Unix software by using
MacOS X. Before MacOS X got out, you could already run a Mach kernel
over your Mac and compile almost anything there (anyway, all crypto
programs I ever needed compiled there - it took a few monthes). I used
it over MacOS 7.5.2 then 7.5.3 and 8.1 but I came back to 7.5.3 later.
Motorola-based Powerbook with Mach kernel, happily compiling and
running
Unix programs with a perfect X working.
I still got the product box and everything in mint condition :
http://perso.wanadoo.fr/gilbert.fernandes/remembering2.html#190
The first MacOS X release went out in January 1999 (and the first
public
beta a year after, 2000 - I bought it from the Paris Apple Expo).
I hope you will both find this information interesting. Most people I
talk about MachTen product and running Mach kernel and Unix over my
old
Motorola-based 68k get pretty surprised about it.
Now I got to start to read all this thread all again, so please excuse
me. Looks like I'm going to need.. some time :o)
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