Oops, I don't think this got to the list. So I'm sending just in case. --- Steve Camp <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hi, > > Where are you located? Oregon. > I'm in Denver. I use Qwest DSL, but Dimensional > Communications / > Forethought (www.dim.com / www.dimensional.com / > www.forethought.com) > is my ISP. No way in hell that I'd use MSN for my > ISP. So I take it that my little eutopia wont work then. :( > I'd inquire about using a 3rd party ISP. That has > not been a problem > with Qwest here in Denver. At one point phone > companies were > required to open their DSL networks to 3rd party > ISPs. Not sure if > that is still the case or not. But I'm pretty > positive that 3rd party > ISP is not a problem, at least in the Denver area. > You might not get > the killer monthly deal, though. But you can get > things like static > IPs, possibly a /29 or /28 network if you have a > good reason / > multiple machines. You can typically also run other > protocols (e.g. > ftp, smtp, telnet, www etc) on a 3rd party ISP / DSL > setup. I think they have another deal that doesn't use MSN. Not the killer 19.99 deal though. :( > Hope this helps. It did a little, I got a good laugh from your comment about MSN. Alrighty, I'll do more research then work on the logistics of getting service of some kind (maybe that clear wire gizmo). > -- > Steve Camp > Centennial, CO > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > On Mon, Oct 24, 2005 at 08:47:30PM -0700, Kris > Anderson wrote: > > Hey folks, > > > > I'm getting off cable (Comcast and 6 megabits) and > > either looking at Qwest DSL w/MSN premium or a > service > > called Clear Wire (Wireless internet). > > > > I'm a bit baffled because Qwest says they have a > deal > > that I could get DSL for $19.99 a month for a > year. Of > > course the fine prints MSN is the ISP so forth and > so > > on. > > > > Their fine print - > > Qwest Choice DSL Deluxe with MSN® Premium: > Available > > for residential use only. Service not available in > all > > areas. Special offer available for new Qwest DSL® > > customers only and includes $19.99 monthly charge > for > > 12 months when combined on one bill with a > qualifying > > home phone pac kage ($24.99 otherwise), free > > activation and 50% off optional technician > > installation (regularly $100). After twelve months > of > > service, price will revert to standard pricing > which > > is currently $39.99 per month when service is > combined > > with a qualifying Qwest local phone package on one > > bill (otherwise $44.99 per month). Rates subject > to > > change. Limit of one bundle discount for DSL > services > > per account. Qwest local phone service or package > > required. DSL modem can be purchased from Qwest > for > > $59.99 or rented for $5/month ,plus $9.99 shipping > and > > handling fee. Non Qwest-supplied modems may not be > > supported. Actual DSL speed varies depending on a > > variety of factors. Uninterrupted or error-free > > service not guaranteed. All prices do not include > > taxes, incremental charges and surcharges. Other > > restrictions may apply. MSN ISP requires agreement > to > > MSN Acceptable Use Policy. Microsoft, MSN and the > MSN > > logo are either registered trademarks or > trademarks of > > Microsoft Corporation in the United States and/or > > other countries. Special Offer until January 28, > 2006. > > > > > > Qwest Choice DSL with MSN® Premium: Available for > > residential use only. Service not available in all > > areas. Special offer available for new Qwest DSL® > > customers only and includes free activation and > 50% > > off optional technician installation (regularly > > $99.99). After twelve months of service, price > will > > revert to standard pricing which is currently > $39.99 > > per month when service is combined with a > qualifying > > Qwest local phone package on one bill (otherwise > > $44.99 per month). Rates subject to change. Limit > of > > one bundle discount for DSL services per account. > > Qwest local phone service or package required. Mod > em > > may be purchased from Qwest for $59.99 or rented > for > > $5/month, plus $9.99 shipping and handling fee. > Non > > Qwest-supplied modems may not be supported. Actual > DSL > > speed varies depending on a variety of factors. > > Uninterrupted or error-free service not > guaranteed. > > Prices do not include taxes, incremental charges > and > > surcharges. Other restrictions may apply. MSN ISP > > requires agreement to MSN Acceptable Use Policy. > > Microsoft, MSN and the MSN logo are either > registered > > trademarks or trademarks of Microsoft Corporation > in > > the United States and/or other countries. Special > > Offer valid until January 28, 2006. > > - > > > > How I had it previously was Comcast's modem to > > wireless router (Linksys WRT-54G), a little > Linksys > > switch, FreeBSD and misc. Windows computers > happily > > sharing the connection. > > > > Just to confirm, my guess is that this would not > be > > the service to go with since I would love to have > my > > spiffy Linksys Router (WRT-54G) hook to the DSL. > And > > to the WR54G the usual network systems of FreeBSD, > and > > misc Windows computers. > > > > If the above isn't going to work then I'm stuck > with a > > different bundle (a few bucks more) that would > allow > > me to do the same thing. I hope. I'm not familiar > with > > the way in which DSL does its connectivity thing. > > Okay, I saw in a previous question that PPoE is > needed > > with DSL. And I noticed that I could set my WRT54G > to > > utilize PPoE, so maybe MSN ISP & Qwest service > will > > work? > > > > So am I right in still thinking that with MSN as > the > > ISP my setup it isn't going to be FreeBSD friendly > and > > that my spiffy little Comcast setup isn't going to > > work with MSN as the ISP? > > > > Most appreciated. Gah, that means I'm probably not > > going to be needing my little WRT-54G router then. > :~( > > > > Hope I wasn't to confusiong there. > > > > ~Mr. Anderson > > > > > > > > __________________________________ > > Yahoo! FareChase: Search multiple travel sites in > one click. > > http://farechase.yahoo.com > > _______________________________________________ > > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > > > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" > __________________________________ Yahoo! Mail - PC Magazine Editors' Choice 2005 http://mail.yahoo.com __________________________________ Yahoo! Mail - PC Magazine Editors' Choice 2005 http://mail.yahoo.com
--- Begin Message ------ Steve Camp <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi, > > Where are you located? Oregon. > I'm in Denver. I use Qwest DSL, but Dimensional > Communications / > Forethought (www.dim.com / www.dimensional.com / > www.forethought.com) > is my ISP. No way in hell that I'd use MSN for my > ISP. So I take it that my little eutopia wont work then. :( > I'd inquire about using a 3rd party ISP. That has > not been a problem > with Qwest here in Denver. At one point phone > companies were > required to open their DSL networks to 3rd party > ISPs. Not sure if > that is still the case or not. But I'm pretty > positive that 3rd party > ISP is not a problem, at least in the Denver area. > You might not get > the killer monthly deal, though. But you can get > things like static > IPs, possibly a /29 or /28 network if you have a > good reason / > multiple machines. You can typically also run other > protocols (e.g. > ftp, smtp, telnet, www etc) on a 3rd party ISP / DSL > setup. I think they have another deal that doesn't use MSN. Not the killer 19.99 deal though. :( > Hope this helps. It did a little, I got a good laugh from your comment about MSN. Alrighty, I'll do more research then work on the logistics of getting service of some kind (maybe that clear wire gizmo). > -- > Steve Camp > Centennial, CO > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > On Mon, Oct 24, 2005 at 08:47:30PM -0700, Kris > Anderson wrote: > > Hey folks, > > > > I'm getting off cable (Comcast and 6 megabits) and > > either looking at Qwest DSL w/MSN premium or a > service > > called Clear Wire (Wireless internet). > > > > I'm a bit baffled because Qwest says they have a > deal > > that I could get DSL for $19.99 a month for a > year. Of > > course the fine prints MSN is the ISP so forth and > so > > on. > > > > Their fine print - > > Qwest Choice DSL Deluxe with MSN® Premium: > Available > > for residential use only. Service not available in > all > > areas. Special offer available for new Qwest DSL® > > customers only and includes $19.99 monthly charge > for > > 12 months when combined on one bill with a > qualifying > > home phone pac kage ($24.99 otherwise), free > > activation and 50% off optional technician > > installation (regularly $100). After twelve months > of > > service, price will revert to standard pricing > which > > is currently $39.99 per month when service is > combined > > with a qualifying Qwest local phone package on one > > bill (otherwise $44.99 per month). Rates subject > to > > change. Limit of one bundle discount for DSL > services > > per account. Qwest local phone service or package > > required. DSL modem can be purchased from Qwest > for > > $59.99 or rented for $5/month ,plus $9.99 shipping > and > > handling fee. Non Qwest-supplied modems may not be > > supported. Actual DSL speed varies depending on a > > variety of factors. Uninterrupted or error-free > > service not guaranteed. All prices do not include > > taxes, incremental charges and surcharges. Other > > restrictions may apply. MSN ISP requires agreement > to > > MSN Acceptable Use Policy. Microsoft, MSN and the > MSN > > logo are either registered trademarks or > trademarks of > > Microsoft Corporation in the United States and/or > > other countries. Special Offer until January 28, > 2006. > > > > > > Qwest Choice DSL with MSN® Premium: Available for > > residential use only. Service not available in all > > areas. Special offer available for new Qwest DSL® > > customers only and includes free activation and > 50% > > off optional technician installation (regularly > > $99.99). After twelve months of service, price > will > > revert to standard pricing which is currently > $39.99 > > per month when service is combined with a > qualifying > > Qwest local phone package on one bill (otherwise > > $44.99 per month). Rates subject to change. Limit > of > > one bundle discount for DSL services per account. > > Qwest local phone service or package required. Mod > em > > may be purchased from Qwest for $59.99 or rented > for > > $5/month, plus $9.99 shipping and handling fee. > Non > > Qwest-supplied modems may not be supported. Actual > DSL > > speed varies depending on a variety of factors. > > Uninterrupted or error-free service not > guaranteed. > > Prices do not include taxes, incremental charges > and > > surcharges. Other restrictions may apply. MSN ISP > > requires agreement to MSN Acceptable Use Policy. > > Microsoft, MSN and the MSN logo are either > registered > > trademarks or trademarks of Microsoft Corporation > in > > the United States and/or other countries. Special > > Offer valid until January 28, 2006. > > - > > > > How I had it previously was Comcast's modem to > > wireless router (Linksys WRT-54G), a little > Linksys > > switch, FreeBSD and misc. Windows computers > happily > > sharing the connection. > > > > Just to confirm, my guess is that this would not > be > > the service to go with since I would love to have > my > > spiffy Linksys Router (WRT-54G) hook to the DSL. > And > > to the WR54G the usual network systems of FreeBSD, > and > > misc Windows computers. > > > > If the above isn't going to work then I'm stuck > with a > > different bundle (a few bucks more) that would > allow > > me to do the same thing. I hope. I'm not familiar > with > > the way in which DSL does its connectivity thing. > > Okay, I saw in a previous question that PPoE is > needed > > with DSL. And I noticed that I could set my WRT54G > to > > utilize PPoE, so maybe MSN ISP & Qwest service > will > > work? > > > > So am I right in still thinking that with MSN as > the > > ISP my setup it isn't going to be FreeBSD friendly > and > > that my spiffy little Comcast setup isn't going to > > work with MSN as the ISP? > > > > Most appreciated. Gah, that means I'm probably not > > going to be needing my little WRT-54G router then. > :~( > > > > Hope I wasn't to confusiong there. > > > > ~Mr. Anderson > > > > > > > > __________________________________ > > Yahoo! FareChase: Search multiple travel sites in > one click. > > http://farechase.yahoo.com > > _______________________________________________ > > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > > > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" > __________________________________ Yahoo! Mail - PC Magazine Editors' Choice 2005 http://mail.yahoo.com
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