On Sat, 28 Sep 2002 01:45:09 +0000
"mufassa bendover" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Listen Guys....
>    As a girl...I dont want to deal with that hard stuff. But also if I
> install windows in my box, I will have to fix it probably at the end
> of the month (girls hate fixing things).

as another woman on this list pointed out, that's crap.  my girlfriend
just started running it 3 weeks or so ago, and she's had virtually no
problems.  she *likes* fixing things.

this isn't a matter of sex at all, it's a matter of your inability to
look at documentation.

>    So is there anyway you guys can solve problems for notonly me, but
> other girls who have the same problem.

freebsd, and those like it, aren't companies that provide you with
24/7 technical support.  it's a bunch of people, collaborating on a
project, and you either participate, or you don't.  if you don't
understand something, by all means ask, and ye shall receive - but don't
*expect* us to solve your problems for you, and list out all the
solutions to potential problems you'll encounter.  i don't understand
why this concept seems so difficult to grasp for some people, but
obviously, some giant banner stating it needs to be plastered across the
freebsd.org site.

>   Thanks for the e-mails and suggesions for how to mount a cdrom, but
>   that 
> wasnt my point. Because you guys are very hard core in programming,
> you guys could make a better interface for this Os, which is so easy
> that even my parents could use. When you combine easines and stability
> together...people will buy your product desperately. you dont know
> hopefully you will wipe out Microsoft.

funny.  the only "programming" i know is HTML, which i'd hardly consider
adequate background, and i've only hit a couple snags along the way.  i
transitioned from windows so easily that it feels weird to try using
windows or windows-like interfaces.  i'm not a professional
tech-anything, either, just some 22 year old guy whose last job was
recharging phone cards.  if some "slacker" like me can figure it out
utilizing nothing more than the many resources available, and his own
intuition, what's stopping you from doing the same?  user-friendly
software can be a godsend, don't get me wrong...but there comes a time
in the evolution of a piece of software that it's just too much.  too
many features, too many pretty buttons, too much CRAP.  i like having a
nice user interface as much as the next person, but i don't need 6
places to launch a program from and a cartoon character 'help' wizard.

another point here is, where does it say that the goal of freebsd is to
make it so easy that your parents could use it?  i personally wouldn't
want them to;  all it would do is propagate the lists with questions
like yours.  you also have to understand that unix-based systems like
freebsd don't really *have* a user interface, other than the command
line.  that's what x-windows and the many window managers are for.  with
a system like windows, you're stuck with *one* option, unless you want
to run potentially system damaging shells ala darkstep.  i tend to like
having non-damaging options around, rather than being forced into using
one thing.

- erik

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