Thanks Jonathan Chen that worked at least in part. I am now just having 
issues with the very slow loading of kde apps and the windowmanager. It 
seems that I'm getting a different error though when trying to start kde I 
get a message in the logs about no kde modules loaded, the error is listed 
as a kdm error, it get's printed to console but couldn't find it in the 
/var/log/ dir to cut and past.
thanks

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