On 1/3/19 6:08 PM, Miroslav Lachman wrote:
Adriaan de Groot wrote on 2019/01/03 14:28:
Niclas wrote:
On Thursday, 3 January 2019 13:00:02 CET 
freebsd-ports-requ...@freebsd.org
wrote:
Firefox and Chromium both depend on GTK3, so it's highly likely that a
typical desktop user has GTK3 installed.
+1, GTK3 is probably the best choice.

As a side note, it looks like libreoffice defaults to GTK2 as well,
perhaps it should be switched to GTK3 also?
As a not-really-GTK-using person, I still have both GTK2 and GTK3 
installed on
my system running KDE Plasma. Not for vim though:

Installed packages to be REMOVED:
         gtk2-2.24.32
         fontforge-20170731
         mftrace-1.2.18_1

Installed packages to be REMOVED:
         gtk3-3.22.30_4
         gpsd-3.17

I'm a fan of pushing for toolkit migration, so reducing the number of things
that pull in GTK2 is a good thing.


So if we're expressing hopes that ports might be made GTK2-free (by porting to GTK3 for instance) then I'd hope that fontforge gets that treatment, too. From looking at the source repo, I don't think the GTK2 option actually works (and the comments suggest it's not all that good anyway). In the configure.ac it
looks like there are spelling-inconsistencies between
    fontforge_can_use_gtk=yes
and, e.g,,
    FONTFORGE_ARG_ENABLE_GDK

(mtrace depends on fontforge, so fixing fontforge would clean GTK2 off my
system)
It is not so simple. What works for you doesn't work for somebody else. 
I am running KDE4 with QT4 but some applications use GTK2 as the only 
option or I set them to use GTK2 because GTK2 has better theme 
integration to KDE4 / QT style than GTK3 (in my personal case).
And, for example, Total Commander has two choices - QT or GTK2. I tried 
it to build with QT but it failed so I switched to GTK2 and it builds fine.
So in my current situation I am glad we have GTK2 and GTK3 and all my 
applications are working (better with GTK2 than GTK3). And having both 
GTK versions installed is not a big problem. Their size is relatively 
small compared to apps like browsers, libreoffice etc.
No one is suggesting removing GTK2.  However, having most ports, where 
there is a choice, defaulting to GTK3 rather than GTK2 might be sensible.
Regards
--
Niclas Zeising
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