On 12/03/17 20:47, Dennis Glatting wrote:
> On Sun, 2017-12-03 at 20:07 +0000, Steven Hartland wrote:
>> People really seem to miss the point that there are only finite
>> resources
>> and as an open source project that depends on people volunteering
>> their
>> time to add new features and maintain tools.
>
> Missing the point cuts both ways.
>
> If you have a a couple swaths of servers managed to certain tool chains
> then the conversion process is an unnecessary and non-trivial resource
> consumption. I have moved servers to Ubuntu and (groan) other Linux
> flavors and customized the processes because:
>
> 1) I am tired of port breakage. I am past tired of being told to read
> UPDATEs when UPDATEs often has limited information, including install
> conflicts.
>
> 2) "Error 70" on installs with no indication of where the error was
> incurred and thus requiring me to make with debug flags and then dig
> deep is past annoying.
>
> 3) Nvidia does not support CUDA under FreeBSD and this is a problem
> for TensorFlow and other applications. If I went the OpenCL route
> (e.g., AMD GPUs) then my application base would be significantly
> limited. I don't consider Intel a serious solution.
>
> Further:
>
> 1) Under FreeBSD I do not do binaries, rather I do source and I do
> source for reasons. Under Linux, source is troublesome.
>
> 2) I had no hope of getting Intel Phi processors working under FreeBSD
> but I do have them working under Linux, including the older Phis under
> CentOS. I recognize this is an Intel problem which is one of the
> reasons I do not consider Intel a serious solution, not to mention the
> requirements and cost of an Intel compiler and Intel libraries.
>
> 3) FreeBSD offers me ZFS and FreeNAS as an alternative, particularly
> for HyperV/VMware SANS. Under Linux, ZFS has historically been
> troublesome.
>
>
> These are nothing more than a few data points. Please do not bother
> with the "then become a maintainer" response. It is not that I do not
> appreciate the efforts of others but that statement is a BS response,
> you know it, and I'll simply delete your message.
>
>
>
Exactly +1 for this
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