On 04/20/17 07:29, Mathieu Arnold wrote:
Le 20/04/2017 à 13:04, Julian Elischer a écrit :
On 20/4/17 5:15 pm, Mathieu Arnold wrote:
Le 20/04/2017 à 10:49, Torfinn Ingolfsen a écrit :
On Thu, Apr 20, 2017 at 8:00 AM, Kurt Jaeger <li...@opsec.eu> wrote:
Hi!

On Thu, Apr 20, 2017 at 1:30 AM, Julian Elischer
<jul...@freebsd.org> wrote:
quarterly however is broken because the pkg mirors discard it all
at the
time of update.
Do they have to?
Why couldn't pkg mirrors keep say, the four latest quarterly sets
all the time?
Because the URL for the latest quarterly is one stable URL.
Obviously this has to be changed. As I wrote:
"No extra work involved once the setup is configured and tested".
So yes, there is some work needed, but it would be a one-time job.

If anyone has any real arguments as to why the FreeBSD project can't
do it this way, let's hear them.
HTH

I am not exactly sure what you are asking for, to keep the previous, not
updated, quarterly package repositories ? say, in latest-1 latest-2
latest-3... ?


What purpose would that serve ? I mean, they would not be updated.

exactly! that's what is often needed...  something that is not updated..

I still do not understand, if you need something that is not updated,
then do not update...


/ rant on

I tried that when I first transisioned from linux to FreeBSD. I had one BITCH of a time simply because I could not find one set of base/ports that would give me a stable desktop. It took me 6 months of random reboots ( the pc would just reboot for no reason, even if it was doing nothing ) packages that were in compatible with each other ( version hell ). I finally got my desktop settle down, then I became stupid and updated it only to go thru the process all over again. I started using synth ( now I can not use it because of the last dust up that occurred, I don't trust it now ), and now I have nothing to trust to get me out of trouble. I can not go back to a know version of base/ports that will together as I have not found the combination.

Now before you think I am only complaining here is a little bit of history. I came from Arch then moved to LFS because of the rolling release. I know what a terrible time you have to keep things updated and working together. The exception with LFS you can go back to a known point ( where things are known to work together ) and restart from there if you have an entire mess and must start over.

I am currently thinking of returning to LFS simply because updating FreeBSD and ports makes my asshole pucker. After updating will I be left with something that works or will I be cussing myself for being stupid and updating, when I sould have left it well enough alone.

I really wanted for FreeBSD to work out so I could have one system for my servers, desktop and raspberry pi computers.

/rant off

Sorry if I offended anyone, I just wanted to share my delving in FreeBSD

Well carry on and have fun my friends.....

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