Mark Linimon wrote:
On Sat, Feb 11, 2017 at 09:51:41AM +0100, Michelle Sullivan wrote:
Tell me.... What is the reason for me upgrading those few production
servers from 9.3 to 10/11?... bearing in mind the following:
There isn't any ... oh, except for no new security updates.
But that's the thing isn't it... what security updates? If I take away
the ports installed I don't actually think there is anything that can
provide a security issue, at least not one that wouldn't be creating a
massive ruck around the world... like the ability to hack the FreeBSD
network stack etc...
The flip side is the more important question. Why should we ask
developers to support a version of the OS that doesn't have:
From https://www.freebsd.org/releases/10.0R/relnotes.html:
* bhyve, drm2, rasbpi, nvme, several overhauled drivers and carp.
..and why can they not appear in 9.x...?
From https://www.freebsd.org/releases/11.0R/relnotes.html:
* mpr, mrsas, pms, autofs, other overhauled drivers.
...or these...?
ABI change? Or is it the same ABI with updated drivers?
I recommend folks reading this thread should examine those links.
As for things removed from base, my understanding is:
* we have limited people to fix/regression test all the security problems
in base/ software. A few notorious candidates have been factored out
into ports.
You have less people now I can guarantee you that.
* there is an overall drive to move to an entirely GPL-free base system.
Perhaps this is not important to you but there are others to whome this
is important.
I have some other thoughts on this but I am being called away to deal with
some other crisis ATM.
The GPL-free base system drive is driving stuff and will change things
that I can see an OS upgrade/version change is called for... but why not
get all of it done and put into 10.0 instead of driving forward with
getting to 12.0 as fast as possible?
Regards,
--
Michelle Sullivan
http://www.mhix.org/
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