Unfortunately, nothing is happening. I expected to hear some voices about
certain ideas that have popped up, like:

* can we cut off old and 'unloved' PR's in order to reduce the amount of
work and make reassessment of that amount
* can we use people who volunteered to work on the PR's
* can we incorporate automation in the PR workflow, for example, the one
provided by redports
* can we introduce new levels of access, the commiters that are commiting
on the ports they're maintaining

But beside few commiters taking part in the discussion, it seems like there
is no action, and no one who would have some decisive powers have taken
care to talk about the issues we're raising.

Kind regards,
B.


On Tue, Jan 28, 2014 at 4:13 PM, Fernando Apesteguía <
fernando.apesteg...@gmail.com> wrote:

> El 28/01/2014 16:04, "Daniel Siechniewicz" <dan...@nulldowntime.com>
> escribió:
> >
> > Hi,
> >
> > Just a little stick in this anthill:
> >
> > - I've seen a few people volunteering, but so far the reaction seems
> > to be: "oh, yeah, well, ah, cool". I'd expect, with all the talk about
> > how much they are needed, that they will be "snatched" immediately and
> > coerced into doing unspeakable things (like processing a 100 PRs a
> > day, ensuring high quality testing and all that :) ). I certainly hope
> > this is happening behind the scenes.
> >
> > - Tools are abundant, focusing on github vs. aegis is really just
> > highjacking this thread. If there's a need for new tool set I suppose
> > people who actually USE the existing ones for ports will be able to
> > identify what's needed FOR THEM. Some form of democracy, I guess.
> >
> > - Yes, fresh look is very important, but you can't tear down something
> > without knowing the consequences, which pretty much means not without
> > in depth knowledge of the existing mechanisms. Not everyone in this
> > discussion seems to be coming from this perspective.
> >
> > - Absolutely, automate the shit out of the process, get rid of stale
> > PR's (and ports, for that matter), "retire" inactive commiters, etc.
> > But first and foremost, get some stats out of the system, there's no
> > point throwing numbers like 50% this, 80% that, if you simply don't
> > know. Measure, analyze and focus your attention where it gets the most
> > benefits.
>
> +1
>
> I wrote the same thing expecting someone to have a look at gnat's database
> and collect some numbers
>
> >
> > - And stop petty squabbles.
> >
> >
> > Regards,
> > Daniel
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