[ PLEASE don't top-post, ktnx ] On Tue, 05 Jun 2012 14:29:58 +0300 Sulev-Madis Silber <madis...@hot.ee> wrote:
> Well, I admit that this short summary was little too big. Bigger than > the another report that regularly ends up in ports@ > > Maybe big maintainer groups need different approach to this. And this > needs more refinement. I let things settle for a while and tell few > weeks later what is left. > > With more sanity and size checks, maybe. Refined form of conflicts. > This report already contains useful stuff but it's hard to spot > currently. Port "maintained" by ports@ are unmaintained so there's no "big maintainer group" here; IMO you should send this kind of botmails to ports@ from time to time (each 2-4 weeks), eventually with some by-hand comments in it if that's the case. Else no one will know / fix these ports. Based on my experience of running QAT for some years: - $people will complain about noise - $people will complain about the way the mail is formatted (yeh, of course I have a few suggestion about that :D ) (in 90% of the cases, $people above would do much better to ssh freefall.FreeBSD.org "tail -2 /etc/motd") - bugging people / lists on each run makes people ignore the issues My suggestion is to: - do a "mass mailing" (recap) each 6-8 weeks, - not send a mail on each run, except a commit was done to the respective ports since the lasts mail (in which case the problem should have been fixed) - avoid false-positives even if this way you risk missing some problems; 5% of false positives make people doubt the real 95% problems (generally speaking, getting right the last 5-10% is 90% of the work) - KEEP STATS. LOTS OF. if $port is broken for weeks and weeks, then we(portmgr@)'d like to know about it in order to find out what prevents it to be fixed and get it fixed. From a QA POV, I think your work is one of the best things that happened in the last years. THANK YOU for your work. (I'll be in touch in the next days). -- IOnut - Un^d^dregistered ;) FreeBSD "user" "Intellectual Property" is nowhere near as valuable as "Intellect" FreeBSD committer -> ite...@freebsd.org, PGP Key ID 057E9F8B493A297B _______________________________________________ freebsd-ports@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-ports To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-ports-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
